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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 8:51:13 GMT -5 via mobile jkarr, BitterFlashback, and 3 more like this

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Post by punished ppurg on Oct 26, 2016 8:51:13 GMT -5

Has anyone taken a look at the new rules? For both game and GDB.

We've jumped from insensible ramblings prior, to severely abstract legalese in the current situation. It looks like they've all covered their ass, now.

I personally can't wait for Nessalin to have another prick-fit and completely invalidate this obvious committee-effort to rein our dear senile citizen in. I wonder how many of the staff members who pushed for these changes will drop out unannounced when it's clear that their upper management doesn't follow the rules they set for themselves.

And since Trump is clearly a bigot homophobic racist, any support of him is breaking the GDB's rules against bigoted content. It's funny how even the most arbitrairily wordy copy-pasted ruleset falls apart completely when the admins enforcing it are, in their own right, bigoted garbage. No amount of scripture is going to fix the trash-in, trash-out system they have going in moderation.

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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 11:33:13 GMT -5

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Post by sirra on Oct 26, 2016 11:33:13 GMT -5

Another time wasting circle jerk from staff. They don't seem to realize that they have lost pretty much any cachet or credibility with the playerbase beyond their own alts and a cadre of hardcore Liz types.

Anyone who has ever filed a staff complaint for any reason over the last 10-15 years, knows their instinctive response to the mildest criticism is hysterically closing their ranks and curling up into a fetal ball. So all that's left is to either put on some stepford facade and pretend to respect them at all, or just leave.

It's a shame, though. Because the game was special, and with even a minimum of barely ethical/intelligent management, it could've remained so indefinitely.

Also? Only Arm staff can spend several pages of legalese bullshit on something when the fine print comes down to 'whatever we want behind the scenes'.

Last Edit: Oct 26, 2016 11:34:25 GMT -5 by sirra

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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 12:21:14 GMT -5

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Post by seuly on Oct 26, 2016 12:21:14 GMT -5

Sidebar: I've filed a few complaints over the past whatever and a majority of them got responded to in my favor aside from one where I sent in one about Nyr and he responded to it, which totes showed it got under his skin on what I was critiquing him over. Nessie probs gave me the best response ever over a complaint about staff abuse.

On point: I'm kinda okay with the forum rules because some shit I have seen made me not want to visit the GDB or read anymore. It just became some piss-fest of chaos and hate. I don't need that hostility. I come to play for sanctuary from the bullshit in the rest of the world. I know some people thrive in that kind of anarchy but it just makes me want to burrito myself.

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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 13:42:11 GMT -5

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Post by punished ppurg on Oct 26, 2016 13:42:11 GMT -5

Oct 26, 2016 12:21:14 GMT -5 seuly said:

On point: I'm kinda okay with the forum rules because some shit I have seen made me not want to visit the GDB or read anymore. It just became some piss-fest of chaos and hate. I don't need that hostility.

... Then what are you doing here?

If the GDB is a piss-fest, what does that make this forum? We are a thousand times worse, from what I've heard.

Of course that's just begging the question. It goes to prove that all of the major good proponents of the community have either been driven out, or chose to leave on their own principle. The only thing left in the GDB's hugbox are the player sycophants who will obviously be happy with everything they get and deserve.

Last Edit: Oct 26, 2016 13:43:49 GMT -5 by punished ppurg

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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 15:37:40 GMT -5

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Post by sirra on Oct 26, 2016 15:37:40 GMT -5

Oct 26, 2016 12:21:14 GMT -5 seuly said:

Sidebar: I've filed a few complaints over the past whatever and a majority of them got responded to in my favor aside from one where I sent in one about Nyr and he responded to it, which totes showed it got under his skin on what I was critiquing him over. Nessie probs gave me the best response ever over a complaint about staff abuse.

On point: I'm kinda okay with the forum rules because some shit I have seen made me not want to visit the GDB or read anymore. It just became some piss-fest of chaos and hate. I don't need that hostility. I come to play for sanctuary from the bullshit in the rest of the world. I know some people thrive in that kind of anarchy but it just makes me want to burrito myself.

Funny, the worst response I ever had to a staff complaint came from 'Nessie'. And yes, Nyr does answer his own staff complaints. lol.

Last Edit: Oct 26, 2016 15:38:02 GMT -5 by sirra

fatfinger Clueless newb Posts: 68	New Rules Oct 26, 2016 15:38:44 GMT -5 seuly likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by fatfinger on Oct 26, 2016 15:38:44 GMT -5 At least here people know they're pissing all over you, and aren't acting like they're arguing from the moral high ground and pouring spring water all over your face.
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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 16:52:38 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by seuly on Oct 26, 2016 16:52:38 GMT -5

Oct 26, 2016 13:42:11 GMT -5 punished ppurg said:

Oct 26, 2016 12:21:14 GMT -5 seuly said:

On point: I'm kinda okay with the forum rules because some shit I have seen made me not want to visit the GDB or read anymore. It just became some piss-fest of chaos and hate. I don't need that hostility.

... Then what are you doing here?

If the GDB is a piss-fest, what does that make this forum? We are a thousand times worse, from what I've heard.

Of course that's just begging the question. It goes to prove that all of the major good proponents of the community have either been driven out, or chose to leave on their own principle. The only thing left in the GDB's hugbox are the player sycophants who will obviously be happy with everything they get and deserve.

Sure, you all can be cranky, volatile haters but I don't have to read it to get to news about the game or clan that may directly shit in my sandbox. I'm here to chill. Its not as bad community-wise. I think on the GDB some are douchbags because they don't want others to be happy. Or worse, they smell girl-meat and start stalking like some creeper. Its shitty.

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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 16:53:21 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by seuly on Oct 26, 2016 16:53:21 GMT -5

Oct 26, 2016 15:37:40 GMT -5 sirra said:

Oct 26, 2016 12:21:14 GMT -5 seuly said:

Sidebar: I've filed a few complaints over the past whatever and a majority of them got responded to in my favor aside from one where I sent in one about Nyr and he responded to it, which totes showed it got under his skin on what I was critiquing him over. Nessie probs gave me the best response ever over a complaint about staff abuse.

On point: I'm kinda okay with the forum rules because some shit I have seen made me not want to visit the GDB or read anymore. It just became some piss-fest of chaos and hate. I don't need that hostility. I come to play for sanctuary from the bullshit in the rest of the world. I know some people thrive in that kind of anarchy but it just makes me want to burrito myself.

Funny, the worst response I ever had to a staff complaint came from 'Nessie'. And yes, Nyr does answer his own staff complaints. lol.

Lockness Monstah.

BitterFlashback GDB Superstar clack clack clack Posts: 1,689	New Rules Oct 26, 2016 22:13:44 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by BitterFlashback on Oct 26, 2016 22:13:44 GMT -5 Anyone wanna cross-post the rules? Oct 26, 2016 16:53:21 GMT -5 seuly said: Lockness Monstah. Ah just gave 'im tree fiddy a couple-a days ago!
	Hater. Gonna hate. Mar 22, 2016 4:20:49 GMT -5 @anaiah said: What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick

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New Rules Oct 26, 2016 23:39:22 GMT -5 BitterFlashback likes this

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New Rules Oct 27, 2016 1:01:19 GMT -5 BitterFlashback likes this

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Post by punished ppurg on Oct 27, 2016 1:01:19 GMT -5

Them's the GDB rules. Here's the game rules:
armageddon.org/help/view/Rules

Roleplaying is a requirement on Armageddon MUD. This involves assuming the role of a character of your creation, and acting the way your character would act in the world of Zalanthas. A large amount of documentation regarding the mindset and behavior of Zalanthans is publicly available and all clans have clan-related documentation for their members to follow. Failure to roleplay and disregarding documentation can result in warnings, karma reduction, storage of your character, and temporary and permanent bans.
You must ask for consent from all visible players in the room before pursuing sexual or torture scenes. There is no such thing as implied consent from past consent grants - you must ask every time. If someone does not give consent, or requests that the scene "fade to black" or "FTB", you must honor that. If you engage in a graphic scene that another player did not consent to, your character will be stored and karma reduced, and your account will be banned for a month at the first occurrence, and your account will be banned permanently on the second occurrence.
There is an exception to the above rule: rape and sexual torture plot lines are forbidden. They cannot be pursued. There is no option to consent or fade to black. They are simply not played out at all. This extends to accusations and threats of rape or sexual torture. If you choose to do this anyway, your character will be stored and your karma reduced at the first occurrence, and your account will be banned permanently on the second occurrence.
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New Rules Oct 27, 2016 1:15:52 GMT -5

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Post by seuly on Oct 27, 2016 1:15:52 GMT -5

I don't think any of those game rules are new. Maybe asking you to back off a clan, or something. That's kind of hard now. I mean... if you're a crafter... you don't got much choices now. I cannot fathom the bullshit it is to be merchant guild in the Black.

Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	New Rules Oct 27, 2016 2:14:54 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 2:14:54 GMT -5 What's new/what's changed?

faroukel Displaced Tuluki What's a story without a villain? Posts: 201	New Rules Oct 27, 2016 14:37:51 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by faroukel on Oct 27, 2016 14:37:51 GMT -5 ...I was expecting something pretty draconian. These all seem fairly legit.

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New Rules Oct 27, 2016 15:14:01 GMT -5 pinkerdlu likes this

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Post by BitterFlashback on Oct 27, 2016 15:14:01 GMT -5

Among other things, at least they're finally all written down in one place. One of the most infuriating things about the game were all the rules you were only told as you were punished for breaking them, because some staffer came up with the rule 6 years ago in the middle of a forum thread (possibly on a board you could not even read) that they never documented anywhere else.

I like the fact they have about 3 references to criticism of the staff or their actions are all outlawed.

Last Edit: Oct 27, 2016 15:14:39 GMT -5 by BitterFlashback

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Mar 22, 2016 4:20:49 GMT -5 @anaiah said:

What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick