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Post by blooddread on Oct 2, 2016 23:59:03 GMT -5
We're happy to announce some new changes and additions to the Armageddon staff team.
- Adhira has moved to a consultant position.
- Nergal has moved to Adhira's place as producer.
- Ath has moved to Nergal's place as administrator of the merchant team.
- Talia has returned to legend status.
We've taken on six new staff members: Aromit, Conqui, Fehu, Tleilax, Vilya, and Wystan.
Conqui and Vilya and will be joining the southern team.
Aromit and Fehu will be joining the independent team.
Tleilax and Wystan will be joining the merchant team.
The current staff roster is as follows:
Producers: Nessalin, Rathustra, Nergal
Administrators: Ath, Tiernan, Nathvaan, Seidhr, Xalle
Southern team:
Administrator: Seidhr
Storytellers: Brokkr, Conqui, Renenutet, Vilya
Independent team:
Administrator: Xalle
Storytellers: Akariel, Aromit, Enthemu, Fehu
Merchant team:
Administrator: Ath
Storytellers: Cayuga, Tleilax, Wystan
Thoughts on the new pecking order?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Oct 3, 2016 3:13:29 GMT -5
Are there any players left not on staff at this point?
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Post by jkarr on Oct 3, 2016 4:04:19 GMT -5
kinda funny how they only announce certain staff leaving. if they havent changed their tune much in the last few years then it should be clear just by counting who they welcome and send off
theyd sooner want u to forget that musashi was ever immortal than to realize (and wonder why) he got tulukd from staff
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Post by punished ppurg on Oct 3, 2016 5:00:17 GMT -5
Just more evidence to point at the Nyrgal conspiracy.
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Post by grumble on Oct 4, 2016 16:33:42 GMT -5
In my communications with nergal, he's been curt, concise, and quick to act in manners I may not approve of personally... but he's no Nyr. I'm unsure what I think of it now that I've cooled off, but, hope for the best is all we can do.
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Post by bobo on Oct 5, 2016 12:18:42 GMT -5
Also, Nergal writes code, something Nyr could never really wrap his mind around. I think there's something to take note of in the sudden burst of development activity from Nessalin and later others when Nyr left. I'm not sure whether it's wholly the shot in the arse from this forum that encouraged him to start making updates, or whether Nyr was actively discouraging any and all new feature development. Nyr was outspoken in his philosophy of not changing things to change them, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was shooting down a lot of features that other imms wanted. Lately it sure seems like Nessalin has been developing faster than we'd expect from the typical Armageddon process of naysaying and stagnation, whatever opinion you have of the specific changes.
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Post by seuly on Oct 5, 2016 12:42:28 GMT -5
Nessalin seemed pretty active before Nyr left they just weren't promoting the changes. Felt like Nyr wanted it to be or appear as his show. Always felt like he micromanaged everything when I was in clans under him. As direct as Nyr was he still understood being human. Like when I'd have real life come up or was stressed out i leadership he'd give me time and check up on me. Nergal just feels like a machine and doesn't act like the real world is real. Its queer.
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Post by forarm on Oct 5, 2016 19:50:48 GMT -5
People thinking Negral is Nyr is no coincidence. He has shown the potential to be a total shithead in the past. However he isn't Nyr, since we all know Nyr is still lurking around in the shadows 'consulting'. I wonder if the ousting of Nyr gave him some more insight on the consequences to the game if he continued to act like Nyr. Only time will tell but I still can't help but feel it would have been better for the game to have just about anyone else taking producer position instead of him.
Adhira beginning to step away from the game is a good thing, however it is a shame it will probably take more time before she becomes a distant memory.
Same with Talia, nothing against the person, but as a player and staff member she was part of the problem. The net gain with her leaving is enough to balance out the fact the game just lost six players into the blackhole that is staffing...
Thats a alot of staff though, whats the population on the game even like these days?
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Post by grumble on Oct 5, 2016 22:52:50 GMT -5
I can say with confidence that there is no way Nergal is Nyr. No amount of behavioral self-analysis would foster that much change in such short a time-frame. Apologizing to Nyr, well, just ask Aniah how staff used to handle honest apologies. I'm honestly possibly going to get unbanned in a month, but Nergal urged me to stop communicating with these boards in order to prevent me from being egged on into contributing details as a condition. Nyr would never accept an apology, he would rub your nose in it like you were a dog that shat on the rug... trust me, Nyr has never managed to NOT gloat after fucking me over... Nergal, however, was willing to accept an apology with some conditions attached, I may have violated those conditions already, but when I weigh my priorities, differentiating between Nergal and Nyr outweigh me getting unbanned. I know he's disliked, but demonizing him and attaching weight to baseless rumors that build conspiraciy theories is just that.
My current perspective, Nergal is in no way Nyr. This may change, if my recent posts have jeopardized my being unbanned, then so be it, that's not enough to discredit my current perspective. Despite my disapproval with his methods, in my perspective, he is not, nor could he ever be, Nyr. If proven wrong, I will post a video of me preparing and eating my own dirty underwear, although I may need to post it elsewhere because some prudes might think it porn and worthy of the Lord's Revenge.
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Post by grumble on Oct 6, 2016 21:02:16 GMT -5
If anything, I'd say Nyr reminds me more of Jazet, which, Nyr would never stoop that low, to chase someone who said, yeah I'm pissed but it's a good game, into the shadowboards in an attempt to slander someone who's done so much to themselves that any further aspiration is nutty. Nyr did a lot of harm to the game and he was power-hungry, but at least he never had the audacity to stand on any actual "principle". I'm sure he has some moral principles IRL, and it's possible some of these came out IG... but Nyr has never, ever attacked me in the open. Sadly, in Kronibas's case, they could have just refunded the karma, or in RRR's case they could have let him further his plots, I remember being mildly involved and having a fuck of a time juggling my priorities. Just as Jazet is not Nyr, nor is Nergal.
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Post by sitbackandchillout on Oct 12, 2016 8:46:11 GMT -5
That's super good news Grumble ^.^ Be a shame to not hear your voice out here as much but enjoy the return of playability!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 0:31:48 GMT -5
If anything, I'd say Nyr reminds me more of Jazet, which, Nyr would never stoop that low, to chase someone who said, yeah I'm pissed but it's a good game, into the shadowboards in an attempt to slander someone who's done so much to themselves that any further aspiration is nutty. Nyr did a lot of harm to the game and he was power-hungry, but at least he never had the audacity to stand on any actual "principle". I'm sure he has some moral principles IRL, and it's possible some of these came out IG... but Nyr has never, ever attacked me in the open. Sadly, in Kronibas's case, they could have just refunded the karma, or in RRR's case they could have let him further his plots, I remember being mildly involved and having a fuck of a time juggling my priorities. Just as Jazet is not Nyr, nor is Nergal. To me, the karma deal really only seemed like a symptom of the problem with Armageddon. What pushed me to come to this board was not only being banned from the GDB, but being banned after being dressed down by Nyr, having my posts in that discussion edited/deleted, and then being prevented from responding. If you are going to insult/mock a player publicly, then at least give them a chance to put their side of the story out there. A better course of action might have been to, I dunno, actually trying to come to a resolution - in emails, the request system, whatever - instead of just flaming, editing posts, and then banning. It's not the players' game. I get that. We don't own it. But acting like an authoritarian jerk in a place where the community is really small, well... you can only get away with that mentality for so long before people start calling you out on it. If you're in a leadership position, whether on Arm or IRL, you have to act like a leader. That involves not being a fuckhead just because you think it's funny - or because you don't like someone under you and are acting spitefully toward them because of something that transpired years ago. Leaders lead - they don't belittle, insult, or otherwise act spitefully to people *just because they can.* But that's what Nyr was doing, and anyone who believes this board would have the same population that it does now if he *had not* behaved as such for so long... is just incredibly naive. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 1:01:56 GMT -5
I think that, as a good leader, you should try to avoid escalating conflict.
I had a boss recently who I really got along with but who one of the only other employees simply couldn't. One of the main reasons for that, I think, was the boss' scarcely concealable jealousy over the other employees' luck with women. This caused animosity between the two, especially considering we lived in a place where there simply weren't many woman... and whenever the two of them got into it, the manager would sometimes escalate the conflict in serious ways.
Most of of the other people where we lived, a couple of dozen, loved that other employee. And most of us will be sad when he doesn't come back next year. But when you're under someone in a leadership role and they see you as competition in weird ways or otherwise act unreasonably spiteful or do things like escalate conflict instead of trying to smooth shit over, well... you can't act surprised when relationships or even entire communities are adversely affected.
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Post by jkarr on Nov 28, 2016 23:49:17 GMT -5
I think that, as a good leader, you should try to avoid escalating conflict. I had a boss recently who I really got along with but who one of the only other employees simply couldn't. One of the main reasons for that, I think, was the boss' scarcely concealable jealousy over the other employees' luck with women. This caused animosity between the two, especially considering we lived in a place where there simply weren't many woman... and whenever the two of them got into it, the manager would sometimes escalate the conflict in serious ways. Most of of the other people where we lived, a couple of dozen, loved that other employee. And most of us will be sad when he doesn't come back next year. But when you're under someone in a leadership role and they see you as competition in weird ways or otherwise act unreasonably spiteful or do things like escalate conflict instead of trying to smooth shit over, well... you can't act surprised when relationships or even entire communities are adversely affected. nyr threatened by/jealous of early era vets wholl never see him as any kind of example to follow? theres no way thats possible  |
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Post by desertman on Nov 30, 2016 11:07:16 GMT -5
I think that, as a good leader, you should try to avoid escalating conflict. I had a boss recently who I really got along with but who one of the only other employees simply couldn't. One of the main reasons for that, I think, was the boss' scarcely concealable jealousy over the other employees' luck with women. This caused animosity between the two, especially considering we lived in a place where there simply weren't many woman... and whenever the two of them got into it, the manager would sometimes escalate the conflict in serious ways. Most of of the other people where we lived, a couple of dozen, loved that other employee. And most of us will be sad when he doesn't come back next year. But when you're under someone in a leadership role and they see you as competition in weird ways or otherwise act unreasonably spiteful or do things like escalate conflict instead of trying to smooth shit over, well... you can't act surprised when relationships or even entire communities are adversely affected. nyr threatened by/jealous of early era vets wholl never see him as any kind of example to follow? theres no way thats possible Seems to be a fair amount of that going around in general.
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