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Post by silentlamb on Sept 19, 2016 9:21:29 GMT -5
I thought shields blocked arrows, but apparently they do not (at least anymore). Was this ever the case? I recently had a load of gith shoot at me, and I only got the chance to parry away their arrows, but not block it with the shield I was wielding.
If this is the case, how do you defend against archers? Besides running, chasing them or shooting back?
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Post by silentlamb on Sept 19, 2016 9:37:45 GMT -5
You don't. You just have to hope staff isn't in a murdering mood today, and barring that, that you're a staff pet who always gets the upper hand. EDIT: Though, in all honesty, I swear I've SEEN projectiles blocked with a shield. Just, whenever archery comes into play shit gets fucked up. Once again, that whole scenario was entirely dictated by PCs, not NPCs. Staff didn't murder anyone, every actor that I saw there that wasn't a member of that NPC tribe that was the whole FOCUS of the RPT was a PC I had at least seen, if not interacted with in some way previously.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 9:59:22 GMT -5
Blocked an arrow with a shield not to long ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 10:14:04 GMT -5
I thought shields blocked arrows, but apparently they do not (at least anymore). Was this ever the case? I recently had a load of gith shoot at me, and I only got the chance to parry away their arrows, but not block it with the shield I was wielding. If this is the case, how do you defend against archers? Besides running, chasing them or shooting back? Shields only block arrows when you have a sizable base def advantage over the archer. Against a max ranger, you need multiple archers shooting back, or a stealthy pc to approach quietly and take them out, or a caster using any number of spells. Warriors dont beat rangers outdoors. Going into the Pah without the permission of the desert elves was a critical failure.
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Post by argle on Sept 19, 2016 13:01:09 GMT -5
I've seen it claimed in various places on these boards that maxed out shield use becomes a very effective deterrent against archers. Is that not the case after all?
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Post by punished ppurg on Sept 19, 2016 13:02:53 GMT -5
Not against maxed delf agility archery, apparently. That's their trump card.
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Post by silentlamb on Sept 19, 2016 13:25:31 GMT -5
I've seen it claimed in various places on these boards that maxed out shield use becomes a very effective deterrent against archers. Is that not the case after all? I can't even get it to work for gith, let alone a desert elf PC. So no, shields suck in preventing archers from picking you off, even when mastered on a well trained warrior.
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Post by grumble on Sept 19, 2016 13:28:14 GMT -5
I'm unsure about gith, do they get massive agi as well?
EDIT: They may be near worthless for it, but they are your best bet, sadly. Not a whole hell of a lot you can do about ranged attacks except hope they don't pick you out, and if they do, hope the arrow isn't tainted something vicious.
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Post by silentlamb on Sept 19, 2016 13:50:38 GMT -5
I'm unsure about gith, do they get massive agi as well? EDIT: They may be near worthless for it, but they are your best bet, sadly. Not a whole hell of a lot you can do about ranged attacks except hope they don't pick you out, and if they do, hope the arrow isn't tainted something vicious. You'll find most NPCs don't have super buff skills. NPC gith may have high agility, but their archery skill is mid to high journeyman I reckon. Enough to hit reliably, but not kill in a single shot. Most NPCs won't be able to kill you outright (especially swarm NPCs such as gith and spiders when found alone, not in groups) except maybe mekillots or bahamets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 20:42:33 GMT -5
I've seen it claimed in various places on these boards that maxed out shield use becomes a very effective deterrent against archers. Is that not the case after all? I can't even get it to work for gith, let alone a desert elf PC. So no, shields suck in preventing archers from picking you off, even when mastered on a well trained warrior. What is well trained, in this case? I wouldnt expect to see any arrow blockage short of 40-60d played, and probably a good strength score to boot.
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Post by grumble on Sept 19, 2016 21:55:54 GMT -5
Well trained is master shield use and middling defense, in my OOC perspective that should be enough to hold a solid line, but, that's playing off the cuff, so possibly dumb. My opninion is 20-days played is where gains should seriously plateau... but I play PCs with no combat skills in combat environments so I'm used to seeing what offense and defense can do, which are hidden, which isn't a whole lot until you get it near maxxed, only bothered with a warrior. Rip Miydao.
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Post by grumble on Sept 19, 2016 21:58:29 GMT -5
Guard using shield use to block others from being hit from arrows should also be a thing, but I expect that'll happen when my army of cats grows wings. That should rely even more on defense. Instead we get sudden death from all around. Should a warrior own a ranger outside? No, but... should a ranger be able to clan wipe all by their lonesome? That, should likely not be a thing.
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Post by silentlamb on Sept 20, 2016 7:12:02 GMT -5
I can't even get it to work for gith, let alone a desert elf PC. So no, shields suck in preventing archers from picking you off, even when mastered on a well trained warrior. What is well trained, in this case? I wouldnt expect to see any arrow blockage short of 40-60d played, and probably a good strength score to boot. I would consider it 15ish days played with two weapon skills on mid-high journeyman and most combat skills mastered (kick bash disarm dual wield twohanded)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 8:09:00 GMT -5
Wow, folks hitting high jman in weapons at 15 days played and I was impressed with myself with 30 days played high advanced. To answer the question though, just get shield use (master)
And actually use your shield for decent chances. Never been on the recieving end of an arrow when I had a shield out but I know for a fact master parry can deflect an arrow.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 11:05:43 GMT -5
The thing about master shield use warriors max the skill out at 45%. I'm fairly certain they're the tops when it comes to shield use, as well as all things melee combat. I wonder what shields that maxed out at 90-95% would be like.
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