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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 16:31:15 GMT -5
'Cause I am curious.
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Post by Azerbanjani on Apr 24, 2016 17:06:44 GMT -5
What about skilling like mad /and/ plotting?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 17:15:40 GMT -5
Not looking for plots is where I'm at. I'm not aware of any and I'm not looking, but I'm not hiding either. I'm just wanderin' and doin' my thing
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Apr 24, 2016 17:43:26 GMT -5
I'm finding plenty of interaction, enough to keep me logging in shoot the shit with my character's friends and other random denizens of zalanthas-- and skill up, but I can't find a damn thing anyone would want to call a "plot".
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Post by grumble on Apr 25, 2016 11:23:32 GMT -5
When I was playing, I found other players' plots to be needlessly destructive, I found staff plots to be needlessly destructive, so, as usual, I had to seek out players and get that "feel" from them, that while things may hurt, it's not just wanton destruction, and try to help them pursue and validate their own plots in order to generate my own and include them. I'd had enough, many times over, and I don't play with stupid assholes who care about karma or grim-dark street cred. This usually means I end up with one of two different kinds of people, karma 0-1-whatever mundanes, and 8 karma muls and what have you who've already "made it".
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 25, 2016 11:38:21 GMT -5
There's no "banned" option, so I'll abstain.
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Post by grumble on Apr 25, 2016 11:53:30 GMT -5
Mostly, I won't play with anyone who's squicked out by mudsex, that's a red flag. If you can't deal with a beautiful act that creates life, but you're all gung-ho about violence, which takes it, then that says a lot about your character, and you as a player. If I find a character who displays no interest, or worse, repulsion, to mudsex, I'll regard them with heavy scrutiny. It's a basic need for RL people, it's a character element excluded because of either cultural conditioning, or possibly trauma. The latter I can grasp and understand, the former is just being a blind sheep.
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Post by grumble on Apr 25, 2016 12:02:20 GMT -5
And it's fine to fade, perfectly fine, I understand people log in from work, instead of, say, doing what they're paid to do. Whatever, I can't criticize, I've worked really hard to make my case to the federal government and state courts and won that shit on my own, so that I collect that goddamn social security I've paid into. I would have to be the worst kind of hypocrite to criticize someone playing from work. I don't like to fade because that's where some very subtle character elements are revealed, but not everyone can participate in such a fashion. But when it's a character element to be repulsed by even the vaguest hint I'm just like, yep, there's one to avoid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 17:51:07 GMT -5
While this is a small sample size, seven out of ten not engaged strikes me as a bad thing.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 25, 2016 19:54:43 GMT -5
I've abstained for obvious reasons, but I am curious how you define a plot.
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Post by my2sids on Apr 26, 2016 0:15:41 GMT -5
grumble why is every post of yours a dissertation of why you mudsex? Jesus Christ. We get it bro. You fap.
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Post by grumble on Apr 26, 2016 8:50:29 GMT -5
Because believe it or not, some characters, and it would seem their players by extension, are so squicked out that someone, somewhere, is doing naughty things, that they go out of their way and bend over backwards and fuck up your plots. Not you, My2sids, your fucking up plots always seemed unrelated to mudsex, which is something I approve of, and the few times I've run into it, well, I gotta admit it didn't so much as fuck up plots as create new ones. Kind of sad we can't play the same game anymore, but such is life. Maybe someday I'll appeal the ban I got handed, but likely not anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 20:58:37 GMT -5
I've abstained for obvious reasons, but I am curious how you define a plot. I think of narratives in a literary sense, when I think of possible mud plots. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_%28narrative%29There are certainly man vs man or man vs nature plots in arm that keep people very entertained, but in terms of other story types from that set, some of them are not well represented at all. Worse, man v man can be pretty isolated or insular, and man v nature even more so. Two pcs mudsexing adds little to the game. The solo ranger who hides from everyone even less. The situation gets even more perplexing when I think in bartle terms. I do not think game environments are strictly required to roleplay social bonds, but they can assist, as "stages" to act on. Some stories about groups of various sizes, against the backdrop of the rinth, or the city streets, or the bars. Again, though, too often they are insular or isolated. I'm just playing with what it would take to have consistent, more inclusive stores in muds. After several muds with imm storytellers, I just dont think that works at any reproducible or sustainable scale. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 22:10:40 GMT -5
Mostly, I won't play with anyone who's squicked out by mudsex, that's a red flag. If you can't deal with a beautiful act that creates life, but you're all gung-ho about violence, which takes it, then that says a lot about your character, and you as a player. If I find a character who displays no interest, or worse, repulsion, to mudsex, I'll regard them with heavy scrutiny. It's a basic need for RL people, it's a character element excluded because of either cultural conditioning, or possibly trauma. The latter I can grasp and understand, the former is just being a blind sheep. I won't avoid MUDsex if it fits my character - there being someone accessible who my character would want to fuck in whatever context he/she is in. I mean, the one time I've had mudsex lmao. I think people that play in clans/groups tend to run into it more, which makes sense. And regarding your comment about fading - there are other valid reasons (imo) other than time. I'm not disturbed, or whatever, by someone describing how they're ejaculating or something. I faded, and would fade, because I have anxiety problems and MUDsex makes me feel awkward as fuck. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 26, 2016 23:23:11 GMT -5
I've abstained for obvious reasons, but I am curious how you define a plot. I think of narratives in a literary sense, when I think of possible mud plots. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_%28narrative%29There are certainly man vs man or man vs nature plots in arm that keep people very entertained, but in terms of other story types from that set, some of them are not well represented at all. Worse, man v man can be pretty isolated or insular, and man v nature even more so. Two pcs mudsexing adds little to the game. The solo ranger who hides from everyone even less. You didn't actually answer my question. Maybe I should elaborate. What do you define as a plot, in the context of voting yes on your poll? What has to happen between how many players for how long for you to call something a "plot", with the assumption it's one that adds to the game significantly enough to register as a blip on your plot Geiger counter? That's more what I was looking for. |
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