bastilleangel
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Post by bastilleangel on Feb 24, 2016 14:28:01 GMT -5
It'd be politically difficult, if not impossible, for active staff to openly have a discussion with us because it'd probably be seen as crediting stuff over here that even some of the regulars rejected as crazy. Pretty much anything resembling a dialogue between our forums would have to start as concurrent threads that just kind of mirrored each other. They've built up the notoriety of this forum too much to back down from it in one go. Is your position that they are irredeemably corrupt/unreasonable, as they stand currently? Quite the opposite; I've liked most of the staff members I've interacted with. It's doesn't seem that way because I tend to complain about long-running problems, stuff staffers do that are actually policy from above, and a couple notorious upper-tier people. There is also a huge turnover for the better staffers while there's longevity for the shitheads... Thank you for elucidating, Bitter. I agree about the political difficulty, and have considered using those back channels that hardly anyone on the GDB likes admitting exist to try and get a staffer or two over here. At least we know some of them monitor this forum. I'll have to reflect on how to overcome this barrier to communication. Unfortunately, your point about the relative longevity is spot-on. The first staffer I ever had direct contact with, Eniriah (spelling?), was fantastic. Her animations were snappy, her rp consistent, and most importantly, she took the time to orient me in both IC and OOC culture. When she told me 'no' on things, she always gave some kind of IC context beyond 'Be the change' or 'This isn't a democracy'; she also provided possible alternatives. Basically, Eniriah acted as you would hope a Storyteller would, and that would be my picture of how Arm. staff shoulder function for the next decade. She also left shortly after my first character finally saw the mantis head, never to return. Instead, we got Nyr, and his personal echo chamber, Niamh, for year after year. Obviously, a change in staff culture to encourage creative, engaged folks to stay on and to weed out the self-serving, vindictive personalities is beyond our control. All I can see to do at this point is hope that Rath stays on long enough, and has the vision as a Producer to turn the old ship around. |
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bastilleangel
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Post by bastilleangel on Feb 24, 2016 14:41:33 GMT -5
Here's my stance: I'll stop giving shit when I get a proper apology for being fucked over a year ago. Contrary to the goldfish on the GDB, I have an attention span longer than a few seconds. In return, since I am actually a decent human being, I will also apologize and cease the flaming as I'll basically have nothing to flame about. As someone mentioned to me before, 1. Barka leaks wiki. 2.  3. I get banned. Unfortunately Purg, your situation is a sterling example of what the entrenched practices staff-side lead to. Policy and culture matter, because they shape individual dynamics. Like many folks, the staff seem to believe that a sincere apology somehow lessens them, when in fact it's quite the opposite. Authentic apologies show others that you're engaged, capable of self-reflection, and able to empathize with their perspective. I sometimes have to stop and wonder what the staff-side discussion looks like. From what premises are they acting? Is there massive groupthink going on, or is it simply that senior staff have intimidated the others into not expressing good-faith dissenting opinions? I understand the need for a unified front, yet even the frickin' Supreme Court allows for, indeed encourages, minority opinions and reasoning. In my more deluded moments, I'd even considered gunning for a Storyteller position and trying to "Be the change" in RL, staff-side. Until recently, though, that meant waiting out Nyr's reign until being able to even start any sort of meaningful reform process. And until I'm certain beyond a reasonable doubt that he's not swooping back in at some point in the near future, I'm going under the assumption that it still does. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 25, 2016 0:25:12 GMT -5
Honestly, if the arm staff came over here it seems to me that they be spending so much time on the "debate stage" here that almost nothing would ever actually get done/changed in the game. Most of what's been up for debate over here is treatment of players and the squashing of player activity. If players can't change the game (and they can't) there shouldn't be all of these pushes to corral them into clans by dropping world responses on the independently successful or nerfs to prevent more people from succeeding on their own. That said, I mostly agree with your post. Though you're incorrect in emphasizing that Arm is a non-collaborative game as the reason debate is fruitless. It used to be a collaborative game and could be one again; the present isn't set in stone. Unfortunately, your point about the relative longevity is spot-on. The first staffer I ever had direct contact with, Eniriah (spelling?), was fantastic. Her animations were snappy, her rp consistent, and most importantly, she took the time to orient me in both IC and OOC culture. When she told me 'no' on things, she always gave some kind of IC context beyond 'Be the change' or 'This isn't a democracy'; she also provided possible alternatives. Basically, Eniriah acted as you would hope a Storyteller would, and that would be my picture of how Arm. staff shoulder function for the next decade. She also left shortly after my first character finally saw the mantis head, never to return. Instead, we got Nyr, and his personal echo chamber, Niamh, for year after year. That's depressing, and I am sorry to say it's at least the fourth staffer I've heard this story about. :/ |
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Feb 25, 2016 1:27:53 GMT -5
Wasn't eniriah the pof ysania? Met her at an apm in 02 or so she wasn't bad. I tried killing her PC several times and she was pretty cordial in person I was surprised lol.
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Feb 25, 2016 1:48:16 GMT -5
Wasn't eniriah the pof ysania? Met her at an apm in 02 or so she wasn't bad. I tried killing her PC several times and she was pretty cordial in person I was surprised lol. prob because u didnt succeed lol |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 25, 2016 2:02:33 GMT -5
Wasn't eniriah the pof ysania? Ysania's player went on to become the staffer Mekeda. I have no idea who eniriah was. |
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