Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 22, 2016 18:05:50 GMT -5
One lump of sugar. The second lump is for the Queen, long may she live.
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Feb 22, 2016 19:06:03 GMT -5
damn the monarchy, two lumps and a pump
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my2sids
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Post by my2sids on Feb 22, 2016 19:39:28 GMT -5
I got denied my 6th point of karma for mistrusting staff and arguing extensively with Talia last year so I'd like to officially pay for alt gdb citizenship. Isn't it like 200 sids?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 22, 2016 19:57:47 GMT -5
We use Shadowboard Cheater Funbucks. They're so far beyond worthless you're poorer for having them.
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dunebum
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Post by dunebum on Feb 22, 2016 20:21:15 GMT -5
I don't play much anymore. I rarely browse the GDB. I log in every once in a while and reply to something in the Random Thoughts thread. I've kind of been over Arm for a while, but still have that connection where I want to check in every so often.
My only thought on this whole situation is how it sucks for whoever had their info leaked, no matter how short a time period. I am glad steps were taken by those posting the information to remove the personally identifying information. It at this point just seems like collateral damage that was unintended.
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Post by legendary on Feb 22, 2016 20:44:48 GMT -5
Why spit in their faces and give them incentive to go back to treating players like prisoners again? Why should they now feel that their decision to attempt to be nicer was worthwhile? Look what happened. Fuck you. This board has outlived its purpose and become something ugly and useless. Stockholm much? The core issue is the staff of ArmageddonMUD have become progressively more imperious as the years roll on. The game of today is not one of collaboration, but one where staff lock themselves away in a tower of bureaucracy and dictate terms down to a population of players scrambling over each other to show their approval, ever hungry for their next slice of karma cake. They've shaped the community with their behavior and where we are now is a result of that behavior. There is no one posting here who does not or did not enjoy the game, yet there are so very many who have given it up in disgust of staff behavior. This forum is unprecedented in the RPI community. There has never before or since been a game with so many disgruntled, disenfranchised or maligned players that they've had the numbers to come together to cultivate an established and widely recognized sub-community. You can shove your head as deep in the sand as your neck will allow, though. We tolerate ignorance and clarity in equal parts around here. Let's get down to brass tacks. This leak was a universal negative and no one should be disputing that. There is every chance some of my information was included in the leak and even though I know it would be dated and useless, I'm no less troubled by how happy everyone was to see it happen. You'll trumpet the virtues of times gone by and staff you remember fondly, but you're cheering for someone violating our trust and throwing our information at the feet of every malcontent that lurks here. We shouldn't play down the potential for risk, or blow it off because Nergal decided to make an embarrassing scene. The threat is still very much there for those affected. I understand the personal information was at least not intended to be released and that swift action was taken to remove it. Thank you for that. This raises some other issues that I find even more troubling. Why was this information kept in storage for all these years? Why do they have the personal details on file of people who have been gone from the community for years and years? You're quick to blame this fiasco on these forums and assume the guise of the victim, Adhira, but there should never have been information retained beyond someone's tenure or kept past the completion of each Arm meeting or staff rendezvous. There is no reason for that information to be kept in storage and common sense dictates you delete it to prevent situations just like this one from happening. The blame lies as much on you and your irresponsible behavior as it does on barka and his. It's my hope this epic clusterfuck can serve as a wake-up call for how thoroughly toxic the Armageddon community has become before it degenerates to the point where there's no recovering from it. I would also like a unicorn.
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Feb 22, 2016 20:58:24 GMT -5
It's my hope this epic clusterfuck can serve as a wake-up call for how thoroughly toxic the Armageddon community has become before it degenerates to the point where there's no recovering from it. good luck stopping it now, theyve already gone postal Turns out I've been banned from the GDB and the MUD as well! I haven't gotten any emails to say why, so I can only speculate regarding the reasons. Hey, I've been avoiding logging into my GDB because I didn't need it to read the forums which I periodically check for updating the Armageddon section of Optional Realities. That being said once RedRanger (who was a very distinguished player who never went off the player at staff) was banned I decided to bite the bullet and check. imgur.com/a/y0wzOPS - I was also banned with no e-mail notification.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 22, 2016 21:17:04 GMT -5
Why was this information kept in storage for all these years? Why do they have the personal details on file of people who have been gone from the community for years and years? As a fellow former staff member, one of the first things I did was run through all of the staff pages. They were all our personal pages. By which I mean the pages we created for ourselves with our own imm handles. It didn't look like anyone bothered updating them after any of us left, so anything you didn't put there probably wasn't on there. It's also worth pointing out that if your imm handle started letters higher in the alphabet than "PHP" your page did not make it online. The wiki cuts off alphabetically at PHPWikiAdministration. Outside of the contact page (which I didn't see so I can't tell you who was/wasn't on it), as long as you didn't put your contact info on your Wiki page, the only other known point of exposure was if you gave your phone number out during the 2006 AIM (as jcarter mentioned). It really seems like the staff are overexagerating the exposure for sympathy at this point. I am pretty oldarmer ever reveals himself, he'll be one of the staffers who numerous people here and on the GDB have mentioned being fond of. I can't think of any reason the current staff would send out bullshit warnings to retired staffers unless they were hoping for more drama. We've lost many of our worthless contrarian spammers over this incident but we're also out a handful of good people, and I can definitely see the staff wanting to aggravate that while simultaneously crying for more pity from that cross they recently nailed themselves to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 23:07:22 GMT -5
I want to weigh again to say that this is not true, and does not need to become true. This is a relatively low impact event compared to some more damning scandals of the past in the RPI community.
SOI was once more popular than ARM is currently. It benefited from 100+ unique players logged in at peak times. Now, it is more or less dead, and this is due (in large) to two major exoduses that were the result of staff whistle-blowing.
ARM can absolutely survive this. This Shadowboard can absolutely survive this. The answer is in everyone taking a few seconds to break from blaming each other to ...
actually talk to each other and figure out how the RPI community AS A WHOLE can collaborate and work together to keep from bleeding players.
Seriously. Stop with this Us vs Them bullshit. Make social justice and collaboration happen with your effort. It's the only way. Accept that we're in this together, and then start a dialogue across communities, across forums, across games -- anywhere and everywhere that it takes to get players to realize that we're wising up and deciding that we're not going to self-destruct anymore. While I might believe the ARM staff has more of an impact on that than the average poster on this forum, it goes both ways, and everyone here can take the necessary steps to encourage a more positive outcome.
So, please, do it. Coming from a person who plays no current RPIs because they've all self-destructed ... someone, please, give me a reason to play again by proving this community is capable of more than shooting itself in the foot.
Or don't. But I'll keep preaching until I really believe that it's too late to do better.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 22, 2016 23:24:57 GMT -5
@jaunt I fear you've posted this on the wrong board (or the right one, considering it'd be deleted off the GDB if you weren't dogpiled). Here, some of the people who you'd call the "Us" group left in protest. There, a few people disagreeing with the staff were kicked out regardless of which board they disagreed with the "Them" group on. This isn't the community that needs this speech.
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Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 22, 2016 23:26:01 GMT -5
He may be hoping that due to the nature of human beings being curious that members of TMC and GDB will read it.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 22, 2016 23:29:34 GMT -5
Well, at least it won't get deleted here. I'll grant him that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 23:48:03 GMT -5
I posted it here, because I believe that folks here might actually be more likely to be reasonable and likely to critically think about this problem. If that's true, folks here might be more likely to reach across the aisle to the other side.
And, also, because I might get dog-piled and disrespected on the other board. I've worked too hard and for too long in the community to deal with mob mentality disrespect towards me.
So, consider what I'm saying, and decide for yourselves whether or not you can positively contribute to the at large situation. That's all I'm suggesting.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 22, 2016 23:58:35 GMT -5
Fair enough. This board is host to... well, really anyone who feels like showing up. It takes a lot of stupidity and trolling to get banned. Really, an amazing amount.
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punished ppurg
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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Post by punished ppurg on Feb 23, 2016 0:05:19 GMT -5
I posted it here, because I believe that folks here might actually be more likely to be reasonable and likely to critically think about this problem. If that's true, folks here might be more likely to reach across the aisle to the other side. And, also, because I might get dog-piled and disrespected on the other board. I've worked too hard and for too long in the community to deal with mob mentality disrespect towards me. So, consider what I'm saying, and decide for yourselves whether or not you can positively contribute to the at large situation. That's all I'm suggesting. I'm currently suffering from the vocal minority on the GDB getting away with hateful rhetoric against me, Jaunt. Hateful rhetoric that will not be punished, because it's against me. You're right, and I wouldn't wish that same experience on you.
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