Nyr posts again

His title was "Tan Muark" for a while, and is now "Hlum Noble." Two things that were removed from the game. I see two likely possibilities here. Either he's capriciously rubbing in the fact that he got that stuff removed from the game, or it's a tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact that he is as gone as those roles.

Third possibility: I'm reading too much into it.

i think you're reading too much into it

I wish I could get a job on staff making snarky, antagonistic, and self serving GDB posts. This is pretty much my skillset. ;-)

Anyone who loves the game must not be ok with this. There is no position suitable for someone who ruins Arm, period. Not as even a builder. If you're a threat to the system, you don't deserve to be a part of that system anymore.

Any player who is ok with his return is exactly what's wrong with the game to begin with: apathy.

I'm not apathetic to the game. I wont participate in the proposed walk out. Dont like Nyr? Become an imm and sink at least 'half' the hours he did.

I'll be perfectly fine with Nyr being a storyteller.

If Nyr becomes a producer, or admin again, I'll quit.




But you know 'how' will Nyr become a producer, or an admin again? Only if current producers and admins will step down due to inactivity and Nyr's explosive activity and sheer ability to be prolific once again outshines the current producers and admins.


The guy is a great asset. He just has to be kept in a locked room, so he doesnt scare the children.


I'm in complete support with Desertman's statement. 

The thing is, desertman, I get where you're coming from. When you first showed up here I was giving you a standing ovation. But I learned a lot about you as you stuck around. What you don't seem to realize through your actions is that you are being the quintessential enabler. You've casually excused imms refusing even your own character goals by saying it's not a big deal and you were probably in the wrong anyway.

Probably in the wrong? Have you no sense of self worth at all!?

Yes, I can understand when players have unrealistic ambitions, especially if they are not in line with the game world and its theme. But the overwhelming majority of player ambitions are so unbelievably harmless. No one's asking for rings of invisibility or plated undead metal armor or a chance to shmooze with muk utep in his pyramid. Arm is designed to create a certain environment for the many different character types. Take merchants, nobles and templars as an example here. They're put in a position of authority but ultimately have zero authority. And any time one of these players tries to exert their authority (htaniya being a great example) they are not only told a resounding no, they're told no in a very 'fuck you' tone.

This isn't ok. Not at all.

I appreciate your desire to bridge the player staff divide that urinemoose and others like to say does not exist....and who also like to pretend they don't know urinemoose is their nickname here. I really do appreciate your desire to do that. But to excuse nyr and so many others as 'not that bad just lacking social skills' is insulting. It's insulting to the rest of the player base. It's insulting to all of the people here who were unjustly banned or deliberately discouraged until they quit. It's insulting to all the players who received offensive responses from nyr (and others) and had to either swallow their pride just to keep playing, or quit on the grounds that they refuse to be talked to and treated that way. It's insulting to the players who when arguing with nyr had their spouses threatened for no reason at all! I say it again, nyr isn't just a little bad for the game. He is absolutely toxic and destructive. And to downplay that fact even for a good cause only amplifies the problem.

I really do believe you say the things you do out of a desire to do good. The problem is you're defending (half-defending, call it what you will) people who expressly do things out of a desire to belittle and berate others. There should be absolutely zero tolerance for this kind of behavior. You also shouldn't say that it's ok talia refused your plans, that you think your plans were probably stupid anyway and deserved to be shot down. This kind of defeatist mind set is not healthy for the game. Let me show you what a healthy viewpoint looks like:

Despite all of this, there are virtually no limits to what can happen,
barring the ludicrous. If your character sets up a mercenary company,
he/she may one day lead an army of loyal soldiers on an assault of one
of the great city-states. As a magicker your character may one day become
a fabled elemental being. Burglars may reach levels of affluence beyond
imagination, and merchants may likewise become so rich as to own their
own merchant house and dominate the world's economy. The limits are
truly whatever you can imagine occurring.