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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 14:50:54 GMT -5
If a plot happens in Allanak, and only a few are there to participate, does it make Allanak fun?
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Post by dcdc on Jan 13, 2016 14:52:53 GMT -5
I'm not accusing any player or poster here persay.
No one here can prove they made the effort to get involved nor can anyone disprove that beyond the anecdote "You didn't try hard enough obviously". Perhaps it's a two way street, some clan leaders and staff can have the "entertain me" entitlement attitude expecting folks to roll around with personality oozing out of their puckered assholes on hour 3. Yet some of the most bland boring interactions with the most painfully boring PC's had that "Entertain me" attitude who complain "THE GAME IS DEAD NO PLOPS!".
Seems like a silly debate unless some one wants to get brave and out themselves with logs. IF you think Allanak is boring for what ever reason pick your ass up and go teach Kurac to emote other wise you're kind of just impotently going back forth about shit neither party is in a position to safely prove.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 14:58:01 GMT -5
the thing to remember here is that staff are divided into little groups. what we have now are great staff on top of the GMH and the Tribals, with creative energy and a real feel for getting things going. What do we have down in the South? You guessed it: the great Naysayer, my way or the highway, seidhr, the boringest blip. I pity the storytellers under him. it's not an either/or. it's a both/and. It's still a general administrative decision to have the semi-annual HRPT in the Tablelands. Besides, if the rest of the staff sit idly by while one region's staff fail miserably at doing anything useful whatsoever, it's unprofessional for them to do nothing. The whole staffing model is flawed when Allanak can be neglected for months on end and nobody else does anything because it's not their area. It's good staff are allowed to excel and peruse things they are passionate about, when that isn't possible, they become stifled and die a slow death as a slave to the bureaucracy. What can be done to help stave off that slow death to the bureaucracy, the DMV syndrome that seems to strike more than your average number of staff members? Do we need to get them laid, help them find their muse, get their superiors fired because they won't approve any of their good ideas? Do we need to get their superiors laid?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 15:18:48 GMT -5
The tablelands event isn't an HRPT... This is something equivalent to the Arena event that was in Allanak, that staff let people store and un-store their characters for, and allowed people around the known watch the event through a special OOC viewing room.
The staff who previously focused on Allanak another clans? They still are. It's not like everyone suddenly abandoned their given clans/area to go work on that. I seriously wonder if any of you whining about plots are playing the game right now, because what you're talking about doesn't represent reality.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 15:27:18 GMT -5
I made a tablelands character but got killed by a mul that raged.... Stupid mul rage. Granted I don't have time to play now. I think it's a bad idea to allow people to remotely view events out of character (is this really happening?) It set's a bad precedent and works counter to roleplay immersion.
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Post by grumble on Jan 13, 2016 15:35:17 GMT -5
Should have bought more tho.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 16:28:46 GMT -5
No, it's not happening now, it already happened years ago.
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Post by ibusoe on Jan 14, 2016 0:23:37 GMT -5
I want to thank you guys for the outpouring of support, and for your patience in awaiting my reply. The delay this time was caused unfortunately by partying. My personal circumstances have improved immeasurably. I've found a flat for example, and things are really working out with the new client. I find myself surrounded by decent and gregarious persons, most of whom conspire to distract me from my favorite video game and it's surrounding community.
There is one point I'd like to address before we continue and that is the matter of my underlying motive in appearing here. I share the skepticism presented by some that there is any great conspiracy afoot. Rather I posted here principally because I have no other way of getting in touch with either Synthesis or FantasyWriter, my erstwhile compatriots in the Game Family that has attracted so much interest. I would not with the lads to think that I'm ignoring them or that I'm otherwise incapacitated, or that my circumstances or situation are bad. My hope is that one of the gang here or other could get in touch with them and would kindly do the needful.
There are two additional items that deserve mention, namely that I did leave two things out of my earlier report that have since been nagging me. One regards the tickets for which I received snarky responses. The chief complaint they are likely to make would be that my tickets were repetitive. I'd rather raise this here than have them surprise anyone with it later. The other point is that my email account associated with the game was disabled some weeks ago. Presumably if the staff had tried to contact me there it would have bounced.
I need to thank RGS in particular both for sticking up for me here and in the original thread where Jave and I had our tête-à-tête.
For reasons that will perhaps now seem obvious, I haven't logged into Armageddon from my home in over a year. Rather, I've logged in using a shell account on a server run by an anarchist collective. Hardly discreet. Additional data would be trivial to collect by simply creating an email account and asking the staff what's going on, but it's simply more fun over here. If nothing else, I'm able to catch up with people who've been banned whom I used to game with that I wouldn't be able to run into.
Armageddon stopped being fun for me about five years ago, and I hung in there because I'm a believer. I faithfully waited for the game to improve. While some are quick to point their finger at the staff, I feel that the players running the Funnel clans don't have moxie. Perhaps individually but not collectively.
The fact that my account is locked is an advantage, not a problem. When I feel like playing again I have the *option* to apologize, but until I feel like playing again I have no obligation to. No one may later accuse me of shirking. The apparition of J. Carter's board here demonstrates that the staff are not qualified to manage an asymmetric conflict of this type. I'm not saying that the staff are dumb, there's no point to insult the people who manage my favorite video game, unsalaried as they are. Rather I have no other explanation to my clanmates other than an apparent lack of tact. Locking my account freed my hand considerably while restricting their ability to take punitive measures.
How many people still play the game? The number of participating veteran players will soon drop into the single digits.
I do hope for reconciliation, but time is on my side. Speaking from experience, wrathful opponents are the easiest to mollify. One simply waits for some grievance, some hapless accident on the part of a third party to provoke them, and as the furor of their temper once again shifts they will scarcely remember what I did wrong, if anything. Of course if either Synthesis or Fantasy Writer needs me back I shall return poste haste.
We shall at this point shift naturally from factual reporting, to which I have thus far restricted myself into the realm of conjecture. What happened? Did I offend one of them? Did they struggle to contact me? Was there some problem with my account? Based on the information provided by other players (and former players), my opinion has become that my account was hacked and that it was locked administratively. I have little to support this, but of the existing theories it has plenty to recommend itself and is on the balance entertaining.
This needn't be an inconvenience. My presence here might have the result of forcing a staff member to come here either in penance or to offer explanation. They have no other way of contacting me and they're running out of people who can run plots, clans, families and RPT. Also, if something can be worked out with J. Carter I can post my articles here. Since my intention is not to be subversive or iconoclastic and my overall attitude towards the staff is a friendly one, they cannot later accuse me of sedition or something. They drove me here, so here I will remain.
I shall decline to post personal correspondences between myself and staff as a matter of policy. Also, I'd like to stick up for Eurynomous. He's a good sort. He must be under a lot of pressure if he's grown snappish with people.
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Post by punished ppurg on Jan 14, 2016 0:58:57 GMT -5
Godspeed man, I hope everything works out for you. Hope you come back to the game with a new interest, someday. My $20 bid on Eurynomos was a joke, heh (but apparently I was halfway on the money).
If I had anything to say, it would be that you probably shouldn't be connecting to anything through a shell owned by an anarchist collective.
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Post by grumble on Jan 14, 2016 3:33:15 GMT -5
... Ibusoe sounds like a certified badass.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 8:01:11 GMT -5
and I will let you claim FW, ibusoe, even though I showed him Arm when we were roommates in college after meeting in a "professional" writing class that was 9 years ago... holy shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 8:49:06 GMT -5
The fuck is this guy, a sheriff from the 1800s writing his sister in the East?
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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Jan 14, 2016 15:37:35 GMT -5
This mirrors my experience: Armageddon stopped being fun for me about five years ago, and I hung in there because I'm a believer. I faithfully waited for the game to improve. I think that this: While some are quick to point their finger at the staff, I feel that the players running the Funnel clans don't have moxie. Perhaps individually but not collectively. ...is because of this: they're running out of [players] who can run plots, clans, families and RPT. And while those that remain may have had moxie at one time, they've learned that showing it only leads to frustration at best and OOC problems at worst. For example: Listen, I tried my dick off to get things done in Tuluk and in Kurac, and in all of my years of playing leaders, I never got one single thing done or changed. ... I dunno if that helps anyone else, but once I realized I was giving too many fucks, I started having a pretty good time.
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Post by pinkerdlu on Jan 14, 2016 16:01:20 GMT -5
Honestly anyone who has heard grumble in shadowspeak knows he's batshit crazy. Definitely when he talks about Baker and the "plots" that his elves are involved in. He does get into some fun shit but not the super sekret plots that scuzballs like ghaati allude to.
Ghaati is also an obvious shill. Take whatever the both of them say with a grain of salt.
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Post by grumble on Jan 14, 2016 18:28:43 GMT -5
Honestly anyone who has heard grumble in shadowspeak knows he's batshit crazy. Definitely when he talks about Baker and the "plots" that his elves are involved in. He does get into some fun shit but not the super sekret plots that scuzballs like ghaati allude to. Ghaati is also an obvious shill. Take whatever the both of them say with a grain of salt. I honestly don't want to be anywhere near those super sekrit plots. Sometimes happens, sometimes doesn't. EDIT: Also, yes, I'm crazy, certified. That doesn't, however, necessarily invalidate my perspective.
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