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Post by king on Nov 10, 2015 12:40:57 GMT -5
despite what people have come to believe, there's still value in being a competent and creative player under this administration. * * * So, King, now that we've established that you were talking about players as opposed to staff-members in your original post (which I didn't get either, so I'm glad you clarified), how do you suggest we give them a "nudge in the right direction"? While I was playing, I made it a point to take in newbies and try to give them an interesting experience, while also leading by example vis-a-vis roleplaying (particularly frailties that get overlooked, such as wounds actually being painful, feet falling asleep after being crouched too long in a position, and so forth). Is that what you're talking about? But we're talking about folks who already have well-established rp patterns, yes? Yes, we're talking about both new players and older players, and how they can achieve the engaging level of play people crave - interesting, layered characters that realize they're in a game primarily focused on interactions with others. Jcarter mentioned there'd probably be better feedback if a thread was specifically created for that purpose and I agree, but I'll let somebody else make it if they'd like to offer constructive feedback. Just off the top of my head, though: - Don't bottle your entire personality up in thinks and feels. Shine. The thinks and feels are there for depth, but the foundations need to be visible to the public. - Take a look at your character and describe him or her without using features or clothing. Does the character have personality? (Yes, the guy used it in his Star Wars reviews, but it's a lesson taught in creative writing, too). Take a look at the characters next to you and do the same. How does each stand out purely by personality? - Try clichés. Try the flashy character. Be the villain, too. Get outside of your comfort zone. - It's a permadeath game, but don't be afraid to take risks on occasion. If you and others are willing to take those risks, there can be a wacky adventure awaiting the survivors. - You can create natural conflict by having a character stray from documentation in some areas, but, as Marauder Joe mentioned in RAT, for every piece you oppose, there should be five you follow rigorously (you're a human fucking elves, but you still fear and hate magick, bow before the Templarate, etc.). It's harder to nudge them IG, but if you're going to take issue with the RP of players on the boards, you should be just as willing to offer your (hopefully not volatile) opinions on what can be done to adjust and mold their RP for the environment.
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Post by dcdc on Nov 10, 2015 12:47:46 GMT -5
King you are literally pouring your last waterskin onto the salt flats. GG
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Post by king on Nov 10, 2015 13:25:02 GMT -5
mby, but not literally
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Post by calk on Nov 10, 2015 14:16:02 GMT -5
Keep up with the times. Literally is now its own antonym.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 14:24:43 GMT -5
It's a small thing, I know, but it kind of peeves me off when people claim that literally is being used to mean 'figuratively.' No one would ever say 'my mouth is FIGURATIVELY on fire right now.' The use of 'literally' in that fashion represents an exaggeration/overstatement, not a change in meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 14:28:07 GMT -5
guys, he also misspelled 'maybe'!
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Post by dcdc on Nov 10, 2015 14:56:28 GMT -5
I <3 this community.
As well Price translated my intent perfectly.
Also, People bashing Ruke or players in Ruke's players position then single handily pan the staff in the same post makes wonder if they read what they write.
Leaders who are 'boring' are so because every time, and yes they deal with staff daily, try something it's always a big at fat no. OR was hopefully, considering Arm's recent developments are in fact recent I would find it best to withhold judgement of players at the moment and see if everyone finally gets into the groove. Could take a month, could never happen but time has to pass for that.
I mean, make fun of players all you want, cause most of them are shit. Sitting at the Gaj is like being in a bad anime dubbed by fans with severe bi-polar disorder.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 15:00:24 GMT -5
Everyone realizes talk is cheap here but some of the things people say are true and yeah, if someone is bashing someone it also reflects poorly on them. Personally I believe ruminating about how bad things are only makes them worse.
What's good about the game? The most fun I ever had were when I believed something might be possible. I would attempt to do things that I thought would be otherwise impossible because of code limitations but I just ran with it anyway because I didn't have anything better to do. What's crazy is other players would join me on my "impossible" endeavor and what's even crazier is staff would jump in and bridge the gap, making the whole thing worthwhile.
Now it seems staff don't do this and even if staff did do this, players don't assist because they don't believe staff will assist, even players like myself don't attempt to do anything "impossible" because there's no hope staff will step up and it'll just be me futility wasting my time while other players laugh while their character sits idly at the bar or in their clan hall somewhere. I wish staff could rediscover how to inspire players to dream.
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Post by king on Nov 10, 2015 15:17:35 GMT -5
STOP RUINING LITERALLY, MOTHERFUCKERS. I COULD HANDLE THE REST OF THE BULLSHIT IN THIS ASININE, BACKWARDS CUMSTAIN OF A COMMUNTIY, BUT THAT IS THE LAST STRAW.
OR AS YOU WOULD, THAT'S LITERALLY THE LAST STRAW. STOP RUINING THE FUCKING WORD, DICKMUNCHERS. IT'S THE CUNTSMACKS OF THE WORLD THAT ARE ASSISTING IN THE DEGRADATION OF "LITERALLY." RFHIOJRWHERHERHIJEROHERJHEROIJHERIOERHJ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 15:18:24 GMT -5
another victory for jcarter.org, cumsmack. if you ain't with us, you against us!
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Post by king on Nov 10, 2015 15:20:19 GMT -5
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO INFER WHETHER SOMETHING IS LITERAL OR FIGURATIVE, NOT USE THEM FOR EMPHASIS. SOCIETY IS ON A DOWNWARDS SPIRAL AND IT STARTS WITH YOU DRY-HEAVING, GLASSY-EYED, ELF-FUCKING DICKWEEDS RUINING LITERALLY
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Post by dcdc on Nov 10, 2015 15:34:33 GMT -5
Dudes on an ironic full tilt, Literally.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 16:31:25 GMT -5
Dudes on an ironic full tilt, Literally. Charles Dickens pinball!! I'd expect great things from such a game.
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Post by calk on Nov 10, 2015 16:41:28 GMT -5
STOP RUINING LITERALLY, MOTHERFUCKERS. I COULD HANDLE THE REST OF THE BULLSHIT IN THIS ASININE, BACKWARDS CUMSTAIN OF A COMMUNTIY, BUT THAT IS THE LAST STRAW. OR AS YOU WOULD, THAT'S LITERALLY THE LAST STRAW. STOP RUINING THE FUCKING WORD, DICKMUNCHERS. IT'S THE CUNTSMACKS OF THE WORLD THAT ARE ASSISTING IN THE DEGRADATION OF "LITERALLY." RFHIOJRWHERHERHIJEROHERJHEROIJHERIOERHJ Ruining? It's ruined. You've already lost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 16:49:18 GMT -5
also there's a use/mention problem with your first use of 'literally'. it should be in quotes, since people aren't literally ruining motherfuckers, but they are ruining [the word] 'literally'. toodles. welcome to English, it's a language.
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