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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 23:43:33 GMT -5
Week 42: 197. Week 43: 184. Week 44: 207. Week 45: 231. Sometimes, you don't know you have a problem until you hit rock bottom. Let's just hope they recognize they dump the other boring fuckers on staff too before it's too late. And while sacking Nyr brought you 25%, we are still at 5 year lows. Maybe this spider plot will bring them back!
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Post by glacierflux on Nov 9, 2015 1:47:55 GMT -5
u guys know that they will never admit that Nyr leaving caused this spike in logins. players started voting again and got themselves a solid lead on Top Mud Sites about a week before Nyr left, and have maintained second place through November so far. they will point to that as the reason, not nyr.
i myself think nyr leaving inspired the gdb to keep voting in November but they'll never cop to that shite. they'll never admit something might have been wrong with their staffing choices. so no, they will not recognize that dumping the rest of the problem staff will help.
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Post by dcdc on Nov 9, 2015 2:10:55 GMT -5
Jesus christ that typing.
When is everyone going to stop living in fear of staff retribution for contributing to these forums?
IF that is still a 'thing' yea, there are always more problems then Nyr.
If any staff are reading this, I recommend if you can't handle criticism I would refrain from putting any thing on the internet.
Ultimately a lot of this is butt hurt, some of it's legitimate, almost all of it's impotently sending mean electrons to your eye balls. Yes its mean spirited some times, yes its inane others... mostly it's a bunch of us butt hurt humanoid sodium deposits gripping about a game we love/loved.
Please for the love of the god damn universe stop banning people from posting here... stop making that negative point. Hell they have more love the game then the majority of those GDB flat earthers who continue to state 'nothing is wrong'.
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Post by sirra on Nov 9, 2015 5:26:02 GMT -5
Jesus christ that typing. When is everyone going to stop living in fear of staff retribution for contributing to these forums? IF that is still a 'thing' yea, there are always more problems then Nyr. If any staff are reading this, I recommend if you can't handle criticism I would refrain from putting any thing on the internet. Ultimately a lot of this is butt hurt, some of it's legitimate, almost all of it's impotently sending mean electrons to your eye balls. Yes its mean spirited some times, yes its inane others... mostly it's a bunch of us butt hurt humanoid sodium deposits gripping about a game we love/loved. Please for the love of the god damn universe stop banning people from posting here... stop making that negative point. Hell they have more love the game then the majority of those GDB flat earthers who continue to state 'nothing is wrong'. I was banned by Nessalin for posting here. Although, I never made much of an attempt to hide who I was, from anyone with a brain who could see my account notes. The irony is that, as @oldtwink can attest, I was pretty restrained around here, and even defended the game on occasion. I only stopped giving a shit, and evidently began posting bluntly enough to earn his displeasure, when he handled a legitimate staff complaint of mine in an extremely abusive and corrupt fashion. As ever, Armageddon's staff is adept at making a wasteland and calling it peace. If they'd treated me with even a hint of basic human dignity, I'd have just continued keeping my head down and playing in Kurac. Game would probably have twice the population it does now, if staff could ever bring themselves to back the fuck off and realize they are so far from being the most important factor in Armageddon. They are a tangential nuisance that get in the way of other's fun, more than anything else. (And no, I'm not referring to ye olde bright-eyed newbie storyteller who starts out great but gets rapidly burned out and jaded. They were always nice for the little while they lasted). The game doesn't need to keep pulling the best leaders in game to staff, where they're ruined. It just needed some administrators, builders, a few people with some basic grasp of an overall vision (Like Halaster or Sanvean for all their many faults) and the common decency to not assfuck people's souls with their tepid, bullshit bureaucracy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 8:53:41 GMT -5
u guys know that they will never admit that Nyr leaving caused this spike in logins. players started voting again and got themselves a solid lead on Top Mud Sites about a week before Nyr left, and have maintained second place through November so far. they will point to that as the reason, not nyr. i myself think nyr leaving inspired the gdb to keep voting in November but they'll never cop to that shite. they'll never admit something might have been wrong with their staffing choices. so no, they will not recognize that dumping the rest of the problem staff will help. it's hilarious how the vibe on the gdb is very much like eastern germany. nobody has said that nyr's leaving is what brought back returning players, yet there's a thread, right after nyr leaves, directed at returning players, a vaguepost about returning players, and so on.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 9, 2015 21:03:15 GMT -5
MR. ADHIRA! TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!
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Post by Patuk on Nov 9, 2015 21:39:17 GMT -5
Jesus christ that typing. As ever, Armageddon's staff is adept at making a wasteland and calling it peace. If they'd treated me with even a hint of basic human dignity, I'd have just continued keeping my head down and playing in Kurac. Now Tacitus references, too? Shadowboards gonna get real classy. I'm also of the opinion that you got banned because it is the logical endgame of the snarky kind of justice the gdb seems to like, since myself, desertman and some other people aren't banned at all. I'd post something along the lines of 'what were you expecting when you posted in the retention thread like that', but blaming people for not policing their tone to be in good accordance with the guidelines of expectation as set by the divinely mandated administration is a thing sad enough that I won't stoop to it.
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Post by sirra on Nov 9, 2015 21:48:24 GMT -5
I'm also of the opinion that you got banned because it is the logical endgame of the snarky kind of justice the gdb seems to like, since myself, desertman and some other people aren't banned at all. I already quit Armageddon, owing to how abusive and opaque the staff complaint tool is. I had no reason to sugarcoat anything in that thread. No need to protect my character, or my karma. But every single post of mine in the GDB thread was more polite than some of the things that staff themselves (such as Mord, Eury, Nessalin or Nyr) have posted. I did not abuse people or call them names, or derail the discussion, or make up lies. I did not troll anyone. In a post where I was replying to three other people, I offhandedly referred to Lizzie as a diehard, and asked why she was even participating in the discussion.They were asking why people left. They wanted to know why. What point did it serve for every time someone posted why they left, for Lizzie to hysterically interrupt and spam the thread with how IT'S ALL SO GREAT! Well. Fine. She's well satisfied. After saying so like twenty times, she can fuck off to RAT and not post the exact same response to every complaint raised. I did not call her a cuntsmack. That Nessalin seized on that as an excuse to ban me, simply offered the perfect example of why I stopped playing Armageddon to begin with. And it's why I find so laughable, the few people that've posted here, 'Gee, sirra, you should've been more obsequious like desertman or so-and-so'. Well. Fuck you. All being obsequious over there ever earned me was a kick in the ass and a condescending pat on the head. Armageddon staff doesn't at this point, deserve anything more than blunt honesty. And someone should call them out for pretending like they want honest answers, only to spam the same thread with a bunch've sandbaggers. So yes, if after all this time, despite staffers such as Nessalin or Eury offering blistering proof that it will be 'business as usual', no matter that Nyr is (temporarily) gone, you still want to play Armageddon...Fine. Be obsequious and plaintively couch all your qualms in as mild a fashion as possible. You won't get banned. But guess what? They won't take notice either. Or in Eury's immortal words, they'll just tell you 'to have a bro-brew and chillax'. Honestly, I feel worse for people who still want to play the game after realizing the extent of the player retention thread is to 'have a bro-brew and chillax', than those who get banned. If anyone still thinks that playing Armageddon under the current administration is a good use of their time, they need to find better hobbies. Or buy some cats. Something.
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Post by delerak on Nov 9, 2015 22:22:29 GMT -5
God Sirra you remind me of myself like 6 years ago when I stopped playing. Just smarter and way better with words.
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Post by sirra on Nov 9, 2015 22:29:20 GMT -5
God Sirra you remind me of myself like 6 years ago when I stopped playing. Just smarter and way better with words. I can't be too much smarter if it took me six years longer to quit for good. Although, in fairness, most of those years were spent in jaded disengagement.
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Post by jkarr on Nov 9, 2015 22:48:19 GMT -5
God Sirra you remind me of myself like 6 years ago when I stopped playing. Just smarter and way better with words. I can't be too much smarter if it took me six years longer to quit for good. Although, in fairness, most of those years were spent in jaded disengagement. plus u didnt have the luxury of getting banned 6+ years ago (not that that ever stopped del) but the hammer never got dropped til now, even if it was just the boards
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Post by BitterFlashback on Nov 9, 2015 23:01:58 GMT -5
God Sirra you remind me of myself like 6 years ago when I stopped playing. Just smarter and way better with words. I can't be too much smarter if it took me six years longer to quit for good. Although, in fairness, most of those years were spent in jaded disengagement. Del had enough alt accounts to have taken 60 - 80 years to quit.
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Post by Patuk on Nov 9, 2015 23:20:55 GMT -5
I think I made it clear I didn't think you should have been banned? We don't disagree so much, I don't think.
Really I just responded because of that whole Tacitus thing. I love me my ancient history.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 23:42:14 GMT -5
I can't be too much smarter if it took me six years longer to quit for good. Although, in fairness, most of those years were spent in jaded disengagement. Del had enough alt accounts to have taken 60 - 80 years to quit. So much so that staff still assume any unidentified multiplayer is Delerak.
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Post by dcdc on Nov 10, 2015 0:22:16 GMT -5
Which I think is a testament to Delerak's amazing persistence. They should just make him honorary staff at this rate.
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