What the fuck is wrong with Armageddon?

Please tell me you played that one "street sweeper". The one who fucked up everything left and right.  All the lulz.

Nah, man, staff have had a bug up their ass about PC hires being "monopolized" for decades. It's an overreaction they have; any impact players might have is beneath notice.

Nyr announced his motives in the thread without naming names. At that time, Drageon was the only noble with subordinates actually playing as sneaky types (maybe Raleris had one getting their ass beat during hourly spars), so I don't know who else would have been impacted. Did it even apply to the elves?

I'll leave RR a message and see if he's up to telling a particular tale I had in mind.

Do any imms even animate npcs these days? Like, at all? It's a funny thing to get in trouble for (sad would be a better word). I never see imm animations anymore and sort of associate them as a thing of an earlier arm era.

I never deserved anything more than any other player: to be trusted enough to play their role within the scope of the IC world.

I'm busy so I'll point out that I’ve posted plenty of examples, and that there are more examples specific to my noble Dragean Tenneshi, to my templar Htaniya Fale, and to my other PCs but that I haven't posted.

So here are a few examples from those that I’ve posted before. First, an example with Dragean.




Now an example from the templar Htaniya.




And another example from my first post on the Shadow Board.

That's the fear, that the Allanaki Gemmed monsters would camp outside the Tuluki gates and murder-stomp everyone who stepped out. Seriously?

If adhering to the MCB of the setting truly helps Tuluk to die, then there needs to be a shift in the setting. Here's a thought -- Allanak and Tuluk could have made white peace. It's not like they were in open conflict for very long. That way, there's still xenophobia and whatnot, but Tuluk would be able to get on its feet again, by your thinking. As well, the two disjointed circles would have become one larger, tenser circle. It would have been better, in my opinion.

Yes, there's plenty of lore reasons why it shouldn't be so; but let's not kid ourselves. That lore was made up along the way to justify OOC direction and ambition from the staff. This situation would have been no different than that.

If you look at my feedback on the GDB from the time, you'll see that we agree.




I don't know what Nyr's motivation was. However, based on my interactions with him at the time and since I feel pretty confident in stating that he didn't lose any sleep over what the stupid Shartist system did to Tenneshi as a clan.




It looks like you agree with their heavy handed tactics. I disagreed with their tactics. Tuluk was starved for players and for fun because of their heavy handed tactics and then they tried more heavy handed tactics to try to save Tuluk. I'm not surprised that by any measure they failed miserably. They, and you, both use zero sum reasoning. It's the same reasoning that makes it seem like a good idea to cap noble clans to only a handful of PCs. Have you considered that people seem to talk constantly about how hard it is to play a villain, and despite that acknowledged uphill battle I was still trying to play the villain for Tuluk? Have you considered that my bounty plans may have increased activity and fun for Tuluki players, that once other players learned that there is activity and fun in Tuluk that more people would make Tuluki PCs?




You certainly appear to think so. I disagree with you that my templar PC's actions were even minutely responsible for Tuluk's demise, however.

But if you mean that I'm partly responsible for Tuluk's demise because I stored Dragean, then maybe you're right. At least you're right insofar that any player of leader PCs is responsible if they abandoned Tuluk, like I did. But it would be pretty rich for you to blame me for that, considering your post here on the Shadow Board about your playing philosophy that eschews trying to "make your mark" and embraces playing in the Byn.




I didn't answer your question because it wasn't germane to the topic of WTF is wrong with Armageddon. Also I try not to be overly boastful. However, since you asked: Dragean had many spies in different shapes and forms through the years I played him, but none was better than Aristarche Tenneshi. Not only did she get closely guarded and personal information from Raleris but she also could manipulate him like nobody else (and it gave me the opportunity to use the word 'uxorious' IC'ly!). It was all a ruse (and maybe the oldest trick in the book). The fact that people still aren't OOC'ly sure about Aristarche's motivations is a testament to her RP. The truth about the Tenneshi/Winrothol rivalry is that it was actually mentioned in the documentation, and those are two things I always loved when I played Armageddon: documentation and rivalries (viz. Borsail v. Oash or Kurac v. Kadius). Despite that, when Dragean first entered the game it was after the Deluge and I made Dragean with the OOC understanding that the focus was to be on rebuilding Tuluk, so I set out to be chummy and  to collaborate with everybody. Thus it was to my surprise when on day 0 or 1 of playing Dragean that instead of wanting to collaborate Raleris was all accusatory and uppity to my new PC. So I decided that the rivalry was the way to go, and Raleris obliged. It was a lot of fun for me for the entire time that I played Dragean.


ETA: I've just gone back and reviewed your posts Kmart, and I see you played Arj and Hurlen. I liked 'em both! Welcome!

If you approach it from the point of view that because the population of Tuluk is anemic it is easy to corner the market on sneaky types and that is "bad" I suppose that is a problem. But if that is the case I think there is a larger problem with the population of the place than it is with one driven and organized leader taking up all the talent. Tuluk closing was so fucking long overdue it is kind of hilarious how long they let it pathetically limp along.