What the fuck is wrong with Armageddon?

Even in the year(?) I've played, I've noticed massive changes. Sorry RGS but that sounds delusional.

What deathbug RPT? The Ghyrrak rpt? I thought the number of losses to that rpt was "zero"


It is delusional to expect Nyr related changes to occur instantaneously. A good step for them to happen would be returning to the game and ... aaaaand ... sufferriiiiiing! Understanding that there will still be a lower playerbase, that there will still be bureaucracy, that there will still be characters with 0 story that simply exist, either due to lack of creativity, lack of available time, or jadedness due to staff inability to work with the players.

But ... if you were to give it time, if you would give it effort, if you would push towards the renovation of creativity. Without Nyr's pressure to say 'no' from above, there will be 'yeses' given eventually. But it requires time, development, and effort. Expecting shit to return to it's prior state in a span of a month, when entire generations of Staff were brought up eating the bureaucratic goo for years is delusional


Joining the game, spending a few weeks and then leaving, quiet literally achieves very little. If you truly believe that the game would change overnight, then ... you are quiet delusional. And truth be said, if you've reached that stage, then "nothing" can be done to change your opinion directly. Perhaps others who have put in the time, will manage to improve the game back to something interesting, but ... I suppose, it will all be done without you.

The numbers are visibly, demonstrably, mathematically undeniably lower these days than they have been in the past. It has a considerable effect on the game and on how readily available interaction is. There are dozens of pages of discussion both here and on the GDB about the critical problem of player retention, and how the game is suffering at the moment.

If you seriously claim otherwise, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, but you're definitely not worth taking seriously. How far can you stick your head up your own ass to continue to deny that there's anything wrong? Jesus fucking Christ, what an imbecile. Just utter idiocy. I've seen parents defend their own children with more rationale and objectivity.

If you happen to have people to play with, good for you. Could it be, maybe, just maybe, that other people don't have the same circle of friends and thus rely on the significantly reduced general playerbase for activity? Because you're basically saying "I have people to play with, so anyone who thinks that the loss of ~30% of the playerbase leads to a less active game is just wrong." And that's so absurd and unintelligent that it barely warrants a response.

Most of what you say is plainly untrue, you just won't acknowledge the self-evident facts. Stuff like this:


...is just straight up false, and I don't understand what you get out of lying about things that we can all go and see for ourselves. It's hopeless to debate anything with somebody who's willing to just lie in order to stick to his argument when proven wrong.

So, enjoy your delusion. You're clearly most comfortable with that. If everyone was like you, nothing would ever improve because everyone would deny that anything's wrong.

Jcarter, the point is that having fun in armageddon had never been constant, and that just because there were 60+ people online doesn't mean you weren't bored 2 years ago. Maybe the lack of players online right now would be more obvious if Tuluk was still open. But right now I'm just not seeing much of a change in-game.

Oldtwink, I definitely wasn't clear in my first post, it was poorly worded and I understand why you misunderstood. I never meant for it to sound like I was saying there aren't less players. Yes, there are less players playing right now, I already said as much in my last post.  I said arm is exactly the same as it has always been, and that the holiday season was affecting player numbers. I never meant for those two statements to be combined. I clarified my point in my last post, but you've only honed in on mild hyperbole and a straw man that if you'd have read where I said:"If you look at player numbers, we've dropped about 5-10 players average per week in the past month" you could have saved yourself some typing.

If all you're saying is less players = less fun and more players = more fun, then yeah man. I agree. I just don't agree when you say things like:
"covered in a stifling blanket of boredom and stagnation" or
"completely mired in this eerie sense of apathy" or
"At the end of the day, Armageddon has just become a really boring game."


 If our positions were switched you'd be calling these "lies" and I'd be saying "No, no, it's just a bit of hyperbole and personal opinion." I think at the end of the day we only disagree because our experiences in-game differ. That's the only reason I felt the need to share my perspective. Calling me deluded or someone who never criticizes the game is just false. I'm disagreeing with you on this one thing and you've sorta gone off the rails.

bad storytelling; no interest in PC stories

Not gonna post any of my personal experiences (except for trying to get that fucking curtain in The Folly replaced with a door, because I think literally every Guild PC has tried to go down that well-worn and very dead-end road) because I've managed to stay incognito this whole time, but I did play with a couple of people here and there who've had some really silly shit happen to them..

I'll ask and see if any of them mind me talking about it on here next time I catch them online.