Kronibas 2.0
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Feb 28, 2015 17:21:59 GMT -5
so should I seduce little kids or not?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:24:01 GMT -5
I don't think there is an easy answer, but don't some online things rigidly adhere to age verification?
I mean, Arm has an application process for each and every character, so I don't think it would be hard to put an age verification thing in there somewhere.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 28, 2015 17:27:57 GMT -5
I don't think there is an easy answer, but don't some online things rigidly adhere to age verification? not to my knowledge. and I don't know of any age verification system that can't be beaten easily or temporarily. I mean, you go to a porn site and it asks you if youre 18. What interfers with you clicking yes instead of no? how do they know you lied?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:28:46 GMT -5
What kind of age verification thing? A simple "are you 18+?" question, like the one you are implicitly saying "yes" to when you give consent for adult roleplay? Because I guarantee you that all minors who want to play will lie on that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:31:05 GMT -5
Show us on the gith corpse where the bad Nyr touched you. This thread was worth it, simply for Pearl freaking out at mudsexing a 14-year old. But wasn't she the concubine or something, of some Borsail dude with leg braces? Or am I thinking of some other whore? Anyways, Kroni. I'm sorry say that unless you were a 14 year old girl, and a male staffer was aggressively trying to Chris Hansen you, no one is going to give a fuck. She was Vedelarin Borsail's concubine, but before that, she was a Tor aide. And then Bhag seduced her with Ihsahn. And then his Tor noble (who was a complete imm avatar). And then he used his Tor noble to buy a Kadian wagon from his very own gypsy character, that I had stolen with another gypsy character. Hmmm. To make matters even more hilarious, Naephet charged Cidsarl with figuring out if the new Tor wagon, which had been repainted black, was the same wagon. As if you couldn't just take a look at that fucking wagon and know it was the stolen one. Tor still has that God damn wagon, too... Fuck you Bhag. And maybe after Bhag was sacked, she did her thing with Vedelarin Borsail, who was literally immobile through that entire character's life, AFAIK. Clegane played him. And I enjoyed RPing with Pearl... I think it was maybe Halaster or someone who told her my age because they had a thing going on OOCly? i dunno, but she was extremely upset and we ended IC relations after that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:34:15 GMT -5
Maybe the age verification thing should only be for people who wish to engage in MUDsex, and it should be more complicated than a simple "yes or no" checkbox to click.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 28, 2015 17:35:27 GMT -5
Rhgt. but not to belabor the point, it's easy to say what it shouldnt be. But it's hard to say what would actually work in specifics.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:36:03 GMT -5
What do you want us to have to do, scan in our state-issued IDs? I don't want Arm staff knowing my information.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:38:11 GMT -5
I don't think there is an easy answer, but don't some online things rigidly adhere to age verification? I mean, Arm has an application process for each and every character, so I don't think it would be hard to put an age verification thing in there somewhere. Age verification by what mechanism? I defy you to detail one that your average 14 year old couldnt beat, that wouldnt also keep any number of adults from participating. I believe people on this board care about children. I'd like to suggest your form of the argument lacks evidence of the offense, in an appeal to people who have only the ability to punish by withholding their participation in the game. News flash... a sizable percentage of the readership is already doing that. I am not a lawyer, but... Depending on the location of the server at the time, the TOS, the owner, and what evidence you could produce that couldnt have been altered, falsified or generated from nothing, and, including the statute of limitations on child sexual assault in many states.... victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA%20Resource%20Center/sol-for-sexual-assault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf?sfvrsn=2Looks like it could be difficult to prosecute, from my uninformed position. Not to be condescending, but allow me to suggest you have only one of a few forms of recourse. Make a better game than Arm that lures away Nyr's supporters, and deprives him of his kingdom. Hope you code. Accumulate evidence and get Nyr charged with some legal offense. Hope you have some money, and no legal weaknesses they know about. Convince Nyr that he should change his course of action. Denial of service Arm effectively, without drawing a legal complaint. Maybe use the attack as extortion to get Nyr to quit. Stop caring about a niche game that is already dying. Its a dirty, dangerous world, and almost all of us are guilty of violating some law. I assert this isnt about not caring about the childrenz. Its about having a solution to suggest when you ask people to get motivated to act. (edit: Also, I apparently type too slow.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:41:38 GMT -5
I can't argue with you there.
Again, I feel like I've been criticized, belittled, etc from the staff side on Armageddon MUD, and to me, even if I've went about it the wrong way at times, it seems perfectly fair to be critical in return.
ArmQwerty, I reallze that you are probably playing right now, but just because you see yourself as on the opposite "side" from me, well, I don't think it justifiably entitles you to dismiss everything that has been written here. Some of it, sure, but amidst all the fuckery and name calling and heavy shit, there is a fundamental problem that needs to be addressed. And I am just some dumb jock who spent his first 18 years in a trailer, so I mean, I'm obviously incapable of coming up with a solution.
But you, I can tell you're a smart dude, so maybe you can help figure this out. Or maybe you will just ignore that the discussion ever happened in the first place in an attempt to curry favor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:45:06 GMT -5
I don't think there is an easy answer, but don't some online things rigidly adhere to age verification? I mean, Arm has an application process for each and every character, so I don't think it would be hard to put an age verification thing in there somewhere. Age verification by what mechanism? I defy you to detail one that your average 14 year old couldnt beat, that wouldnt also keep any number of adults from participating. I believe people on this board care about children. I'd like to suggest your form of the argument lacks evidence of the offense, in an appeal to people who have only the ability to punish by withholding their participation in the game. News flash... a sizable percentage of the readership is already doing that. I am not a lawyer, but... Depending on the location of the server at the time, the TOS, the owner, and what evidence you could produce that couldnt have been altered, falsified or generated from nothing, and, including the statute of limitations on child sexual assault in many states.... victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA%20Resource%20Center/sol-for-sexual-assault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf?sfvrsn=2Looks like it could be difficult to prosecute, from my uninformed position. Not to be condescending, but allow me to suggest you have only one of a few forms of recourse. Make a better game than Arm that lures away Nyr's supporters, and deprives him of his kingdom. Hope you code. Accumulate evidence and get Nyr charged with some legal offense. Hope you have some money, and no legal weaknesses they know about. Convince Nyr that he should change his course of action. Denial of service Arm effectively, without drawing a legal complaint. Maybe use the attack as extortion to get Nyr to quit. Stop caring about a niche game that is already dying. Its a dirty, dangerous world, and almost all of us are guilty of violating some law. I assert this isnt about not caring about the childrenz. Its about having a solution to suggest when you ask people to get motivated to act. (edit: Also, I apparently type too slow.) I've said it a few times, but prosecuting people or going to court for any shit like that never even entered my mind when i wrote the initial post. I just wanted to put an unsavory aspect of the game out on front street for discussion. The people who have brought up suing and prosecutions and blah blah blah, well, that was some space cadet tomfoolery - nothing that I wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:45:53 GMT -5
Your biggest problem, kronibas, is that you keep assigning ulterior motives to people who disagree with you in this discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:46:51 GMT -5
I've said it a few times, but prosecuting people or going to court of any shit like that never even entered my mind when i wrote the initial post. I just wanted to put an unsavory aspect of the game out on front street for discussion. The people who have brought up suing and prosecutions and blah blah blah, well, that was some space cadet tomfoolery - nothing that I wrote. Which is exactly my point. What. Do you. Want to. Happen. Now?
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Post by punished ppurg on Feb 28, 2015 17:48:53 GMT -5
You can call the feds; they'll agree with you that dropping fruit on the sidewalk is illegal if you describe it right. That is to say, with bias.
I still stand by the fact that it is legal.
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Post by sirra on Feb 28, 2015 17:51:19 GMT -5
Show us on the gith corpse where the bad Nyr touched you. This thread was worth it, simply for Pearl freaking out at mudsexing a 14-year old. But wasn't she the concubine or something, of some Borsail dude with leg braces? Or am I thinking of some other whore? Anyways, Kroni. I'm sorry say that unless you were a 14 year old girl, and a male staffer was aggressively trying to Chris Hansen you, no one is going to give a fuck. She was Vedelarin Borsail's concubine, but before that, she was a Tor aide. And then Bhag seduced her with Ihsahn. And then his Tor noble (who was a complete imm avatar). And then he used his Tor noble to buy a Kadian wagon from his very own gypsy character, that I had stolen with another gypsy character. Hmmm. To make matters even more hilarious, Naephet charged Cidsarl with figuring out if the new Tor wagon, which had been repainted black, was the same wagon. As if you couldn't just take a look at that fucking wagon and know it was the stolen one. Tor still has that God damn wagon, too... Fuck you Bhag. And maybe after Bhag was sacked, she did her thing with Vedelarin Borsail, who was literally immobile through that entire character's life, AFAIK. Clegane played him. And I enjoyed RPing with Pearl... I think it was maybe Halaster or someone who told her my age because they had a thing going on OOCly? i dunno, but she was extremely upset and we ended IC relations after that. I remember that spying on Pearl was pretty much the wank material for half the imms at the time. A lot of those faggots were in high school at best, too. Hell, I was too, back then.
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