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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:08:31 GMT -5
Yeah, people tried all morning to tell me that this kinda shit is okay and legal and all cool, and when I call the fucking feds and make sure that I was right, that it's illegal as fuck, you want to go all Freudian on me?
How about you stop turning this into some ad hominem shit and acknowledge the fact that I just proved that the main basis of arguments against what I'm saying is bullshit?
It's illegal as fuck, and a lot of you goons have been breaking the law out of ignorance or not giving a fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:09:09 GMT -5
If it is illegal, call the authorities. Do it. I already said you should do it, you just said you called them and they said it was enticement. Call them and report it. Dude I am about the furtherest thing from the cops that you will ever meet in your life, and I have zero interest in seeing anyone, even some schmuck like Nyr, go to jail.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:16:29 GMT -5
I am skeptical of the notion that you proposed this in a completely neutral and unbiased way, and that you were just describing the situation in detail without making any emotional appeals or confusing the issue.
But again, I really don't know what the law says. I just don't think people can morally be held responsible for something that they had no idea they were doing and can't be expected to know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:18:50 GMT -5
I didn't mention anything to the call center about my personal anecdotes man. I didn't delve into any of that shit. It wasn't a law enforcement thing that I called.
I asked questions objectively about anonymity and simulated sexual acts with minors via only a text based medium. Call the number I listed and ask questions in a similarly objective fashion, and you will be told the same damn thing.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 28, 2015 14:26:55 GMT -5
Yeah, people tried all morning to tell me that this kinda shit is okay and legal and all cool, and when I call the fucking feds and make sure that I was right, that it's illegal as fuck, you want to go all Freudian on me? i'm trying to have a legal discussion with someone pretnding he's not lashing out over bad notes about emoting. Parental nglect and child endangerment arent excusd by ignorance. How is your mother (who as a lawyer cant even claim ignorance of the law) not as guilty as Arm is for endangering you? How about you stop turning this into some ad hominem shit i'm turning this into ad hominem? Bitch please. who was it that implied everyone defending Arm "might" be diddling children? I think you know his name. here's a reminder. Sorry, you dudes can be apologists for people who like to simulate sexual acts with minors all you want. I halfway think it's because you're guilty of such yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:31:18 GMT -5
Hmmm, yeah, well, I proved that it's illegal, when a half a dozen people were adamantly claiming it isn't, and now back to the insulting me stuff.
Maybe you're just a little pissed that you were wrong?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 28, 2015 14:33:47 GMT -5
I never made an argument it was legal. So why would i be pissed whther it was proved one way or anothr?
maybe if you wre actually readng the posts youre responding to instead of blingly lashng out you'd know that.
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Post by Procrastination on Feb 28, 2015 14:37:31 GMT -5
This fucking guy. I'm not gonna repeat it again. Armageddon has a consent bit now. If you consent, that's on you. If you don't, don't. If you -shouldn't- don't. It's not within their capabilities to check whether or not you're fourteen year old doing things you shouldn't. It is however your mother's. They can't reasonable verify your identity no more than any random site with pornography. So if you go there, it's on you. Not them. You. Should it be made harder to access for people underage? Is that what you wanna talk about? How would we do it? Really. I'm listening. How would we? Put up a little thing that you click 'yes' I'm 18 or 'no' I'm not? You think that stopped all the fourteen year olds elsewhere? NO ONE IS SAYING ITS FINE TO FUCK FOURTEEN YEAR OLDS! We have multiple times however said your little bullshit law quote wasn't the 'correct' law because it's about depicting visual graphics specifically. No one has said it's legal, still. Dude, just come off it, sit down, and go back to your pot smoking. Every time you stand up and loose your shit over here, you make the rest of us look dumb by association.
Seriously. If GDB's Allanak, and we're rinthi, you'd be shanked and made into a pie by now.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 28, 2015 14:38:56 GMT -5
Seriously. If GDB's Allanak, and we're rinthi, you'd be shanked and made into a pie by now. and someone would be saving it in the back of their freezer in case the tmplarate showed up on a spice raid.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:39:08 GMT -5
Saying that parents should be held fully responsible when their child is enticed into some shit is like saying women are asking to be raped when they wear mini skirts.
I was one of the first generation of people to have the Internet from a preteen age, and like I've said before, Armageddon is like an indecipherable wall of text to those who aren't familiar with it. It's hard for an outsider to know what's going on, period, much less being able to monitor it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:41:07 GMT -5
I make you look dumb by association by pointing out that it is federally illegal to simulate sex acts with a child?
Sorry, most of y'all look a lot dumber for not even realizing that it was illegal in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:42:54 GMT -5
This fucking guy. I'm not gonna repeat it again. Armageddon has a consent bit now. If you consent, that's on you. If you don't, don't. If you -shouldn't- don't. It's not within their capabilities to check whether or not you're fourteen year old doing things you shouldn't. It is however your mother's. They can't reasonable verify your identity no more than any random site with pornography. So if you go there, it's on you. Not them. You. Should it be made harder to access for people underage? Is that what you wanna talk about? How would we do it? Really. I'm listening. How would we? Put up a little thing that you click 'yes' I'm 18 or 'no' I'm not? You think that stopped all the fourteen year olds elsewhere? NO ONE IS SAYING ITS FINE TO FUCK FOURTEEN YEAR OLDS! We have multiple times however said your little bullshit law quote wasn't the 'correct' law because it's about depicting visual graphics specifically. No one has said it's legal, still. Dude, just come off it, sit down, and go back to your pot smoking. Every time you stand up and loose your shit over here, you make the rest of us look dumb by association. Seriously. If GDB's Allanak, and we're rinthi, you'd be shanked and made into a pie by now. Minors can't legally consent to anything, so that's basically a moot point. if you're about to stick your penis in a 14 year old, and they consent upon being asked, you are not in the clear, mane, and you have still broken the law.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:43:45 GMT -5
And feel free to try to shank me and put me in a pie... The things people will say on the Internet but would not dare repeat to a person's face IRL.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 28, 2015 14:43:47 GMT -5
Saying that parents should be held fully responsible when their child is enticed into some shit is like saying women are asking to be raped when they wear mini skirts. No, sayng that parents should be held responsible if their lack of monitoring their kid results in him writing community torture porn for years is as valid as -if not more than- saying Arm should be able to tell someone's age "because computers" Armageddon is like an indecipherable wall of text to those who aren't familiar with it. BULLSHIT. the vast majority of what you read on arm is standard english. Your parents don't have to play it to be able to read translated emots any more than they need an AOL account to read Vances AIM logs with you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:47:44 GMT -5
I like how when I show that shit is illegal and that morons have been breaking serious laws out of ignorance, I get raged at.
Fact of the matter is, is that before this discussion, a lot of people weren't sure/didn't know if simulated sexual acts with minors is illegal or not.
Now, there's no excuse. At all.
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