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Post by topkekm8s on Aug 28, 2014 11:55:52 GMT -5
Who were they? Who do you THINK they were? Or are? Were you one of 'em? List who you think are the top 5. Also it should be noted that when I say "greatest" (a subjective term to be sure) I mean, which characters brought the most to the game in your opinion? Which were the most memorable? Be it epic story lines or just great, fun, roleplay. Also also 5 is sort of an arbitrary number but I have my reasons. Plainsman? Shattered? Gage? Flint Sky? Quick? Name your top 5, friends  ! |
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Post by jcarter on Aug 28, 2014 12:27:40 GMT -5
Sujaal is the only person who stands out in my opinion. There's different levels of players but the only person I feel is appropriate to be named at the exclusion of others would be him. He's had his share of criticism and favoritism, but at the end of the day the guy spent a lot of time and effort into doing the shit work of getting RPTs together and having people enjoy the game.
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Post by topkekm8s on Aug 28, 2014 12:37:24 GMT -5
Was this a PC or player? And if it was the latter, what PCs did he play? If it was a PC, elaborate about him : o Edit: searched the forums, there is info on him buy more would be appreciated  |
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Post by jcarter on Aug 28, 2014 12:48:58 GMT -5
The PC's name was Sujaal. He was a Byn sarge for a long time, and then I think he became the first PC lieutenant. He put together a lot of RPTs and did a great job of networking and setting up contracts for the Byn, as well as leading them and doing the logistics involved. He was a warrior, probably one of the buffest in the game, and I think got his own special combat style as well as didn't have the group penalty applied if 3 or more people were attacking him. Honestly though if the imms rezzed him every time he died I would have been okay with it because he was just one of those essential people that really made everything come together. The character and style itself were imo nothing special, like there wasn't anyone knocking down the door to roleplay with him, it was just that he would make things happen.
Edit: I think he got killed by a sorc after he left the Byn and the player was pissed off about it because sorcs can basically just hide in the middle of nowhere, skill up, and then pop out with little risk whereas all the mundane classes have to spar and survive. Which I can understand because I'd be pretty annoyed if I got cheesed by an invis sorcerer on a character with 50+ days played.
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Post by topkekm8s on Aug 28, 2014 12:56:08 GMT -5
Better than being stored. What was his personality like? Was he your quintessential badass 'mercin byn sarge?
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Post by jkarr on Aug 28, 2014 13:45:43 GMT -5
yeah that was lods char
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Post by delerak on Aug 28, 2014 13:51:35 GMT -5
Sujaal is definitely in the running. Also the player of Sujaal was a pretty good guy I think. One of the few people who ever actually defended me publicly on the GDB. LoD or LoDSnarf I think were his two monikers.
So that's the good. The bad is that LoD was notorious for having long lived characters get a lot of "perks". I think he also played Sandman who was really cool and would "charge" people like 20 sids to travel thru the desert. I died to him a fair amount because of well.. pride in the part of me the player and not my characters. Back then I played pretty unrealistically. Sandman was cool.
Sujaal was given coded perks I think. Like they removed the "pack" modifier to him so he could technically fight as many people as he wanted and they never got the "pack" bonus on him which is why he was neigh invincible late game because he could fight 5-6 PCs as if he were fighting one. They gave him some kind of weird coded "stance" thing too I don't know the full story and this is all hearsay but I am fairly certain of the pack bonus removal from his PC. He got a statue put up in the museum in Tuluk too. And Sujaal got the Byn embedded in the North. That's also kind of a big deal hah.
Alright enough about him if I had to make a serious list:
- Literally anything played by Clegane. Iakovitzes Tor Warlord. Ned (Kadian/Byn mercenary), and he had a crippled Borsail noble I forget the name but I played a dwarven slave for him. The guy was just a genius when it came to his roles.
- Have to mention the Kuraci viv. His name escapes me for some reason but he lived for at least 5+ RL years and no one ever knew he was a Viv. I don't think he even cast anything for the first 2-3 years of his character. His sdesc was the narrow-faced man or some shit. I can't believe I forgot his name.
- The Sage sorc. Lived in the rinth and did a lot of cool stuff. Just genuinely wanted people to have fun it seemed. I never knew him or anything but he lived for a bit and created a lot of fun for a lot of people. Had great presence in the rinth.
- Dream team Byn: Sergeant Berlian. Sergeant Mazzel. Sergeant Iltrin (Special mention for RPing this guys lisp so well). Lt. Kroz. These guys were great. No idea who played them but I remember this was around the time I started playing seriously. Kroz was a Sarge and then they all got together and I've never seen the Byn like it was during its golden years under these guys. There was also an elven sarge Gowynn I think that ended up dying in the Arena because he was forced to fight Mazzel. Just lots of cool stories around this time. Never knew any of the players either which is what I think makes it a great success under Krrx (byn staffer at the time).
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Post by picklehead on Aug 28, 2014 15:16:38 GMT -5
I imagine the reason LoD got a lot of perks is because he had a long history of playing great players and was one of those players who was very adept at bringing other players into the fold or getting them involved in the plots he was trying to get moving. Khann, one of his other characters, was one of the first leader-types I encountered playing the game, and I'd argue he should be considered in the conversation as top PCs of all time. He was very powerful in the game world as a merchant and created the J'karr while working for Salarr.
Sujaal also started the academy and museum in Tuluk. It's too bad the academy didn't continue after he was gone (afaik).
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Post by gloryhound on Aug 28, 2014 16:58:23 GMT -5
LoD was a mover. Thrain, Khann, Rhydun Kurac too, I guess. And Sujaal too? It was easier to make a name for yourself back then, though, if you measure it by changing the world. Now, people just step into sponsored positions and are remembered more for their personalities than anything they do (since they can't change much if anything). To me, the only person that stands out from the last ten years is Southie's Samos. And Ihsahn, but he had the advantage of being a top-ranked staffer's avatar. Actually, I guess Ihsahn is way past ten years now.  |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Aug 28, 2014 17:24:36 GMT -5
- Literally anything played by Clegane. Iakovitzes Tor Warlord. Ned (Kadian/Byn mercenary), and he had a crippled Borsail noble I forget the name but I played a dwarven slave for him. The guy was just a genius when it came to his roles. Iakovitzes was the only one I got to see. The guy was one of the few people i met the entire time i was around in the game (both times) who both performed elaborate emotes and actually played an interesting character. he was also a major plot mover and activity generator. Im going to have to give some background for why i highlighted the emoting though... Back in the day on the old gdb there were a group of people who called themselves "Fashionistas". And who other people called "Description nazis". They'd emote as if a Victorian poet was describing an oil painting. that in itself is fine, except theyd get on other people to emote more flowery. And they'd imply if not outright say that more emote means better roleplaying. The thing that made them really annoying was their characters had all the characterizaton of packing foam. They couldnt hold an interesting conversation ic to save their lives. Iako was NOT one of them; he didn't get on people to emote more, he emoted well, and his character was fun to talk to. So you knew his emoting wasnt compensating for being boring as fuck like those pompous asses from the gdb. - Have to mention the Kuraci viv. His name escapes me for some reason but he lived for at least 5+ RL years and no one ever knew he was a Viv. I don't think he even cast anything for the first 2-3 years of his character. His sdesc was the narrow-faced man or some shit. I can't believe I forgot his name. Sargax. Another great leader who was responsible for a tremendous amont of player-generated activity. Possibly responsible for the most player-generated activity ever if you count what other Kuraci were doing with stuff he got rollng. I highlighted these guys in order to depress everyone. see, there was a time when you had a lot of leader PCs who made the game active with their own pursuits. And a lot of them were around at the same time. so just about anywhere you went there was someone whod have shit for you to do if you were in their clan or an indy. I'm gonna leave out Luir;s for the most part, because Kurac was a huge clan at that time and if you couldn't find someone to give yuo shit to do in Luir's it was because you played 10 minutes per week on Fiji time or some shit like that: - Iakovitzes (Tor) - Allanak but I think he might have employed spies in tuluk. Moved to Tuluk with the Occupation. I believe he had clan members on the look out for poison/explosive components but it's really been too long to say if my memory is plying tricks on me.
- Sargax (Kurac) - Technically everywhere, mostly Allanak, tuluk, and luirs. He had a wagon, he traveled frequently, and bought virtually everything to keep the clan stocked. Employed pretty much anyone for anything, including spies.
- Domhalon (Kurac) - Red Storm and Allanak. Made spice sifting profitable for indies in RSV instead of a waste of fucking time. and he'd buy nearly anything that could be used for crafting. Might have employed spies.
- Ysania (Kadius) - Tuluk, but had a wagon like Sargax and traveled frequently. Very political/sociable and bought shitloads of stuff from indies.
- Pearl (Kadius) - Allanak, very political/sociable leader, may have employed spies.
- The Sage (Indy sorc) - East side of the Rinth. Had his own cult but it wasn't a staff sponsored mess. he made that shit happen.
- Kholdarian (Oash) - Allanak. Very political, employed a lot of spies.
It's also worth noting there were a string of Guild and Byn leaders who kept people active. Cant recall any of their names though. anyhow, all these people were running shit over the same period of time. The game was very active because of it. |
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Post by jcarter on Aug 28, 2014 17:55:59 GMT -5
Iakovitz was around when I was a newb. He really set the entire tone of noble-commoner interactions for me. At the time I think I was like 12 or 13 and just kept playing burglar after burglar with these dumb backgrounds on the level of "he comes from a line of burglars" because I wanted to be like Garrett from Thief. I never had a set of lockpicks or even went into the 'Rinth because I was so newb. I had no idea how to skill up or anything so I don't think I ever used hide or sneak really. You have to keep in mind that Iakovitz just lived the decadent noble vibe. The guy was described as 'corpulent' I think and had an entire suit of metal armor that he would wear everywhere as a status symbol. The guy would constantly make commoners feel like dirt, but this motherfucker is walking around like the Tin Man so you wanted to hang around him hoping that maybe he'd chuck some 'sid or something your way. I probably interacted with Iakovitz a few times, but the only time I really remember was this- Fale was having this big party, everyone was invited it was at their estate I think. Being a burglar I was like hell yeah these fools are letting me walk right into their compound. So I'm in there, and doing some newb hob-nobbing a bit. I honestly couldn't tell nobles and commoners apart to be honest. Also because like BitterFlashback said you had those fashionistas with 12 line descriptions, 40 wearable and unique items (essentially the meta-game status symbol) it was just so hard to tell who the fuck was who and what was going on. So like I said, hobnobbing. Don't wanna be too obvious. I let everyone settle into the groove, get comfortable and I'm like excuse me a moment and start wandering around the compound. Someone left a bedroom unlocked, so I walk in and just start looting the chest. It wasn't much, like a pair of shoes, a couple of bandanas, maybe like some sandcloth pants and some small trinkets. Someone comes in and is like what are you doing in here and I'm like oh I just got lost. Head back out to the party, and Iakovitz is drunk at this point and declares they're going to play 'Commoner Tossing'. He subdues me and drags my ass out the gate and then throws (shoves or whatever the coded command was) out. So I pick myself up and walk away maybe 50 'sid richer, but when you're a broke-ass newb in a time before 'sid mining and when the thirst counted down a hell of a lot faster that's a big deal. |
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Post by jcarter on Aug 28, 2014 18:04:50 GMT -5
Anyhow, clegane was always kind of a prick and condescended down to me. Just one of those pseudo-intellectual dicks. Anyone know whatever happened to him? I remember him announcing he got diagnosed with multiple sclerosis like 10+ years ago. for those who don't know, MS is a absolutely brutal disease where, overly simplified, your nerves aren't able to conduct as well and eventually not at all and leads to a slow loss of bodily function over a long period of time. one of those things I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
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Post by nyrsucks on Aug 28, 2014 18:21:47 GMT -5
Sujaal would be the more boring character ever except he was the biggest coward ever and that's a little interesting.
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Post by delerak on Aug 28, 2014 19:54:54 GMT -5
I met Clegane at the Dragoncon and he never really came off as anything but a nice guy and to be honest I could care less if he was a dick to some people, some people deserve to be and that doesn't detract from his abilities as a roleplayer.
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Post by lulz on Aug 28, 2014 20:22:57 GMT -5
Sargax, because Red Ranger is a good player and the character was very realistic -- he brought the world to life.
Shatuka, aka Halfear because she was a badass halfelf who didn't take shit from anyone. People may trash her but I like the character and Delerium her player.
Sandman, because I modeled several of my desert elves AFTER him. My favorite scene of him was him ambushing a group of Byn by rising up out of the sand behind them and politely asking for money. The sergeant obliged.
Thrain, not because I got to meet him (he was before my time), but because of what he accomplished in laying siege to Allanak. Incredible.
Masha Kah, because while Hot Dancer may get shit for Kija Kah, Masha wsa the reason the Soh Lanah Kah survived. Not only did he create the tribe, he got it coded and included in the game by staff. Plus he was a badass.
Those are my five, but of course there were many other pcs I thoroughly interacting with.
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