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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 15:28:49 GMT -5
Well, I have nothing to do this afternoon, so look forward to all of the week by week, year by year numbers on new accts vs accts logged in.
PS: Yo, with all this player retention, how come all the numbers aren't actually going up? They are? Nope. Look at them. It stays around 200, with new accounts making up the bulk of any new players. So that 6 you are keeping of new players? You're losing in veterans.
I'm on week 15 of 52. Will post details in a few hours, and if I get bored enough, I might even throw down some graphs and charts.
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Post by lyse on Jul 8, 2014 15:58:50 GMT -5
Well, I have nothing to do this afternoon, so look forward to all of the week by week, year by year numbers on new accts vs accts logged in. PS: Yo, with all this player retention, how come all the numbers aren't actually going up? They are? Nope. Look at them. It stays around 200, with new accounts making up the bulk of any new players. So that 6 you are keeping of new players? You're losing in veterans. I'm on week 15 of 52. Will post details in a few hours, and if I get bored enough, I might even throw down some graphs and charts. I'll post some thoughts when you're done. |
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yoashi
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Post by yoashi on Jul 8, 2014 16:00:57 GMT -5
Just like my job at work, right now, there is no focus on 'retention' as much as "hire more people, throw spaghetti at the wall, and see what sticks". There isn't player RETENTION, its getting more players in, and weeding out that 1/20 that doesn't get disillusioned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 16:02:40 GMT -5
Weeks 1 through 26 new account and unique account logins from the years 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 so far in the next post:
Week 1:
2010:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2011:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2012:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
Week 2:
2010:
New Accounts: 22
Accounts Logged in: 263
2011:
New Accounts: 20
Accounts Logged in: 245
2012:
New Accounts: 43
Accounts Logged in: 265
2013:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 248
2014:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 278
Week 3:
2010:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 263
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 245
2012:
New Accounts: 50
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 248
2014:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 279
Week 4:
2010:
New Accounts: 20
Accounts Logged in: 260
2011:
New Accounts: 14
Accounts Logged in: 239
2012:
New Accounts: 34
Accounts Logged in: 270
2013:
New Accounts: 4
Accounts Logged in: 200
2014:
New Accounts: 35
Accounts Logged in: 270
Week 5:
2010:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 252
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 234
2012:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 245
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 60
Accounts Logged in: 284
Week 6:
2010:
New Accounts: 45
Accounts Logged in: 254
2011:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 256
2012:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 244
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 78
Accounts Logged in: 283
Week 7:
2010:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 262
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 245
2012:
New Accounts: 41
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 83
Accounts Logged in: 275
Week 8:
2010:
New Accounts: 47
Accounts Logged in: 269
2011:
New Accounts: 15
Accounts Logged in: 244
2012:
New Accounts: 58
Accounts Logged in: 263
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 93
Accounts Logged in: 271
Week 9:
2010:
New Accounts: 30
Accounts Logged in: 262
2011:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 247
2012:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 251
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 67
Accounts Logged in: 248
Week 10:
2010:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 253
2011:
New Accounts: 15
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 65
Accounts Logged in: 276
Week 11:
2010:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 269
2011:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 255
2012:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 246
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 68
Accounts Logged in: 266
Week 12:
2010:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 285
2011:
New Accounts: 26
Accounts Logged in: 250
2012:
New Accounts: 20
Accounts Logged in: 254
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 73
Accounts Logged in: 277
Week 13:
2010:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 302
2011:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 269
2012:
New Accounts: 41
Accounts Logged in: 247
2013:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 238
2014:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 265
Week 14:
2010:
New Accounts: 65
Accounts Logged in: 296
2011:
New Accounts: 43
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 247
2013:
New Accounts: 91
Accounts Logged in: 292
2014:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 257
Week 15:
2010:
New Accounts: 53
Accounts Logged in: 297
2011:
New Accounts: 26
Accounts Logged in: 250
2012:
New Accounts: 31
Accounts Logged in: 241
2013:
New Accounts: 116
Accounts Logged in: 309
2014:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 265
Week 16:
2010:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 271
2011:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 254
2012:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 252
2013:
New Accounts: 113
Accounts Logged in: 301
2014:
New Accounts: 42
Accounts Logged in: 258
Week 17:
2010:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 277
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 265
2012:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 242
2013:
New Accounts: 114
Accounts Logged in: 302
2014:
New Accounts: 55
Accounts Logged in: 249
Week 18:
2010:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 269
2011:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 251
2012:
New Accounts: 52
Accounts Logged in: 252
2013:
New Accounts: 116
Accounts Logged in: 286
2014:
New Accounts: 68
Accounts Logged in: 259
Week 19:
2010:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 278
2011:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 250
2012:
New Accounts: 42
Accounts Logged in: 241
2013:
New Accounts: 119
Accounts Logged in: 295
2014:
New Accounts: 72
Accounts Logged in: 264
Week 20:
2010:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 270
2011:
New Accounts: 34
Accounts Logged in: 249
2012:
New Accounts: 22
Accounts Logged in: 254
2013:
New Accounts: 96
Accounts Logged in: 293
2014:
New Accounts: 45
Accounts Logged in: 262
Week 21:
2010:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 260
2011:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 258
2012:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 261
2013:
New Accounts: 127
Accounts Logged in: 292
2014:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 259
Week 22:
2010:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 283
2011:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 30
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: 130
Accounts Logged in: 296
2014:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 252
Week 23:
2010:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 273
2011:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 268
2013:
New Accounts: 88
Accounts Logged in: 280
2014:
New Accounts: 51
Accounts Logged in: 254
Week 24:
2010:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 289
2011:
New Accounts: 34
Accounts Logged in: 275
2012:
New Accounts: 18
Accounts Logged in: 266
2013:
New Accounts: 99
Accounts Logged in: 283
2014:
New Accounts: 40
Accounts Logged in: 251
Week 25:
2010:
New Accounts: 41
Accounts Logged in: 278
2011:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 274
2012:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 283
2013:
New Accounts: 120
Accounts Logged in: 281
2014:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 245
Week 26:
2010:
New Accounts: 31
Accounts Logged in: 279
2011:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 279
2012:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 272
2013:
New Accounts: 142
Accounts Logged in: 286
2014:
New Accounts: 43
Accounts Logged in: 238
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Post by Lizzie on Jul 8, 2014 16:45:39 GMT -5
This information could probably have been sorted a little better. Maybe by year, first, and then week. It also might be a good idea to note when these weeks take place - everyone knows summer and holiday weeks are habitually quiet.
Less on the "understanding/mentally parsing this information" side of things: Without knowing how many of the last week's new accounts stayed, it's difficult to back up the statement that new players are only joining as old ones leave. For all we know, according to this new players just aren't sticking around...which would be much more in line with a MUD.
It also might be important to note what constitutes a new account. Is it an account from an IP or range of IP that has never accessed the MUD before? Is it just a new account being made? Is it a new account being made, regardless of location, and actually logging in, passing through the character creation gauntlet, and experiencing the game?
These are all important - a number of new accounts could be people trying to dodge bad account notes so they can actually play desert elves at some point in their life, many new accounts may never log in once their character is accepted, and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:02:58 GMT -5
Actually, it is done as such: January 1-7 2010: new total 2011: new total 2012 new total 2013 new total 2014 new total Then on, through each week of the year. And it is very easy to see a lot of players lost, when you compare numbers from one specific week which has 200ish returning accounts in 2010, 2011, 2012, then in 2013, highest numbers of all of them at 286 logins -until you find out that literally -half- of them are new accounts. Which shows a loss of over 50 players in a year, using the same week of the year, over the course of 5 years of given data, Lizzie. Is it too hard to read with the way I have it laid out? Should I make graphs? I just finished collecting all the numbers. |
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Post by jcarter on Jul 8, 2014 17:14:47 GMT -5
here are a couple of ideas on how time could be better spent than arguing with people over whether an obscure text game a handful of people play has a declining playerbase:
1)doing anything else
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Post by jkarr on Jul 8, 2014 17:27:35 GMT -5
here are a couple of ideas on how time could be better spent than arguing with people over whether an obscure text game a handful of people play has a declining playerbase: 1)doing anything else pretty sure those ideas would have a lot more weight if they came from someone who didnt take the time to make and run an entire wiki and board devoted to sharing secrets and dissatisfaction with how an obscure text game is being run in the first place pot kettle. anyways i say share it all anaiah |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:38:21 GMT -5
Week 1:
2010:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2011:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2012:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
Week 2:
2010:
New Accounts: 22
Accounts Logged in: 263
2011:
New Accounts: 20
Accounts Logged in: 245
2012:
New Accounts: 43
Accounts Logged in: 265
2013:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 248
2014:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 278
Week 3:
2010:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 263
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 245
2012:
New Accounts: 50
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 248
2014:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 279
Week 4:
2010:
New Accounts: 20
Accounts Logged in: 260
2011:
New Accounts: 14
Accounts Logged in: 239
2012:
New Accounts: 34
Accounts Logged in: 270
2013:
New Accounts: 4
Accounts Logged in: 200
2014:
New Accounts: 35
Accounts Logged in: 270
Week 5:
2010:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 252
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 234
2012:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 245
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 60
Accounts Logged in: 284
Week 6:
2010:
New Accounts: 45
Accounts Logged in: 254
2011:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 256
2012:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 244
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 78
Accounts Logged in: 283
Week 7:
2010:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 262
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 245
2012:
New Accounts: 41
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 83
Accounts Logged in: 275
Week 8:
2010:
New Accounts: 47
Accounts Logged in: 269
2011:
New Accounts: 15
Accounts Logged in: 244
2012:
New Accounts: 58
Accounts Logged in: 263
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 93
Accounts Logged in: 271
Week 9:
2010:
New Accounts: 30
Accounts Logged in: 262
2011:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 247
2012:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 251
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 67
Accounts Logged in: 248
Week 10:
2010:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 253
2011:
New Accounts: 15
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 65
Accounts Logged in: 276
Week 11:
2010:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 269
2011:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 255
2012:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 246
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 68
Accounts Logged in: 266
Week 12:
2010:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 285
2011:
New Accounts: 26
Accounts Logged in: 250
2012:
New Accounts: 20
Accounts Logged in: 254
2013:
New Accounts: no data
Accounts Logged in: no data
2014:
New Accounts: 73
Accounts Logged in: 277
Week 13:
2010:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 302
2011:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 269
2012:
New Accounts: 41
Accounts Logged in: 247
2013:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 238
2014:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 265
Week 14:
2010:
New Accounts: 65
Accounts Logged in: 296
2011:
New Accounts: 43
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 247
2013:
New Accounts: 91
Accounts Logged in: 292
2014:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 257
Week 15:
2010:
New Accounts: 53
Accounts Logged in: 297
2011:
New Accounts: 26
Accounts Logged in: 250
2012:
New Accounts: 31
Accounts Logged in: 241
2013:
New Accounts: 116
Accounts Logged in: 309
2014:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 265
Week 16:
2010:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 271
2011:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 254
2012:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 252
2013:
New Accounts: 113
Accounts Logged in: 301
2014:
New Accounts: 42
Accounts Logged in: 258
Week 17:
2010:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 277
2011:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 265
2012:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 242
2013:
New Accounts: 114
Accounts Logged in: 302
2014:
New Accounts: 55
Accounts Logged in: 249
Week 18:
2010:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 269
2011:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 251
2012:
New Accounts: 52
Accounts Logged in: 252
2013:
New Accounts: 116
Accounts Logged in: 286
2014:
New Accounts: 68
Accounts Logged in: 259
Week 19:
2010:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 278
2011:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 250
2012:
New Accounts: 42
Accounts Logged in: 241
2013:
New Accounts: 119
Accounts Logged in: 295
2014:
New Accounts: 72
Accounts Logged in: 264
Week 20:
2010:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 270
2011:
New Accounts: 34
Accounts Logged in: 249
2012:
New Accounts: 22
Accounts Logged in: 254
2013:
New Accounts: 96
Accounts Logged in: 293
2014:
New Accounts: 45
Accounts Logged in: 262
Week 21:
2010:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 260
2011:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 258
2012:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 261
2013:
New Accounts: 127
Accounts Logged in: 292
2014:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 259
Week 22:
2010:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 283
2011:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 30
Accounts Logged in: 262
2013:
New Accounts: 130
Accounts Logged in: 296
2014:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 252
Week 23:
2010:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 273
2011:
New Accounts: 38
Accounts Logged in: 261
2012:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 268
2013:
New Accounts: 88
Accounts Logged in: 280
2014:
New Accounts: 51
Accounts Logged in: 254
Week 24:
2010:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 289
2011:
New Accounts: 34
Accounts Logged in: 275
2012:
New Accounts: 18
Accounts Logged in: 266
2013:
New Accounts: 99
Accounts Logged in: 283
2014:
New Accounts: 40
Accounts Logged in: 251
Week 25:
2010:
New Accounts: 41
Accounts Logged in: 278
2011:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 274
2012:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 283
2013:
New Accounts: 120
Accounts Logged in: 281
2014:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 245
Week 26:
2010:
New Accounts: 31
Accounts Logged in: 279
2011:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 279
2012:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 272
2013:
New Accounts: 142
Accounts Logged in: 286
2014:
New Accounts: 43
Accounts Logged in: 238
Week 27:
2010:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 270
2011:
New Accounts: 22
Accounts Logged in: 272
2012:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 276
2013:
New Accounts: 98
Accounts Logged in: 269
2014:
New Accounts: 48
Accounts Logged in: 249
Week 28:
2010:
New Accounts: 35
Accounts Logged in: 286
2011:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 286
2012:
New Accounts: 35
Accounts Logged in: 284
2013:
New Accounts: 96
Accounts Logged in: 276
2014 - numbers skewed because this week is not over:
New Accounts: 14
Accounts Logged in: 165
Week 29:
2010:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 290
2011:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 276
2012:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 275
2013:
New Accounts: 105
Accounts Logged in: 299
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 30:
2010:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 300
2011:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 283
2012:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 280
2013:
New Accounts: 75
Accounts Logged in: 309
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 31:
2010:
New Accounts: 31
Accounts Logged in: 275
2011:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 275
2012:
New Accounts: 53
Accounts Logged in: 278
2013:
New Accounts: 109
Accounts Logged in: 300
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 32:
2010:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 262
2011:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 273
2012:
New Accounts: 42
Accounts Logged in: 291
2013:
New Accounts: 94
Accounts Logged in: 292
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 33:
2010:
New Accounts: 36
Accounts Logged in: 280
2011:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 283
2012:
New Accounts: 39
Accounts Logged in: 280
2013:
New Accounts: 78
Accounts Logged in: 286
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 34:
2010:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 277
2011:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 274
2012:
New Accounts: 31
Accounts Logged in: 287
2013:
New Accounts: 99
Accounts Logged in: 273
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 35:
2010:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 271
2011:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 254
2012:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 257
2013:
New Accounts: 100
Accounts Logged in: 275
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 36:
2010:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 275
2011:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 262
2012:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 255
2013:
New Accounts: 114
Accounts Logged in: 295
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 37:
2010:
New Accounts: 18
Accounts Logged in: 270
2011:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 268
2012:
New Accounts: 26
Accounts Logged in: 264
2013:
New Accounts: 86
Accounts Logged in: 282
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 38:
2010:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 268
2011:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 271
2012:
New Accounts: 18
Accounts Logged in: 244
2013:
New Accounts: 110
Accounts Logged in: 275
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 39:
2010:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 255
2011:
New Accounts: 22
Accounts Logged in: 264
2012:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 237
2013:
New Accounts: 102
Accounts Logged in: 287
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 40:
2010:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 259
2011:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 270
2012:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 242
2013:
New Accounts: 78
Accounts Logged in: 272
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 41:
2010:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 270
2011:
New Accounts: 28
Accounts Logged in: 270
2012:
New Accounts: 20
Accounts Logged in: 254
2013:
New Accounts: 79
Accounts Logged in: 286
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 42:
2010:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 259
2011:
New Accounts: 29
Accounts Logged in: 249
2012:
New Accounts: 30
Accounts Logged in: 254
2013:
New Accounts: 94
Accounts Logged in: 296
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 43:
2010:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 253
2011:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 257
2012:
New Accounts: 27
Accounts Logged in: 251
2013:
New Accounts: 84
Accounts Logged in: 299
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 44:
2010:
New Accounts: 58
Accounts Logged in: 265
2011:
New Accounts: 23
Accounts Logged in: 240
2012:
New Accounts: 25
Accounts Logged in: 248
2013:
New Accounts: 64
Accounts Logged in: 288
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 45:
2010:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 271
2011:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 245
2012:
New Accounts: 30
Accounts Logged in: 259
2013:
New Accounts: 89
Accounts Logged in: 277
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 46:
2010:
New Accounts: 76
Accounts Logged in: 289
2011:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 227
2012:
New Accounts: 21
Accounts Logged in: 256
2013:
New Accounts: 69
Accounts Logged in: 267
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 47:
2010:
New Accounts: 85
Accounts Logged in: 266
2011:
New Accounts: 13
Accounts Logged in: 225
2012:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 246
2013:
New Accounts: 69
Accounts Logged in: 270
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 48:
2010:
New Accounts: 51
Accounts Logged in: 275
2011:
New Accounts: 14
Accounts Logged in: 227
2012:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 255
2013:
New Accounts: 72
Accounts Logged in: 271
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 49:
2010:
New Accounts: 50
Accounts Logged in: 269
2011:
New Accounts: 22
Accounts Logged in: 240
2012:
New Accounts: 32
Accounts Logged in: 257
2013:
New Accounts: 71
Accounts Logged in: 268
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 50:
2010:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 273
2011:
New Accounts: 12
Accounts Logged in: 234
2012:
New Accounts: 26
Accounts Logged in: 254
2013:
New Accounts: 56
Accounts Logged in: 272
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 51:
2010:
New Accounts: 44
Accounts Logged in: 260
2011:
New Accounts: 16
Accounts Logged in: 234
2012:
New Accounts: 33
Accounts Logged in: 259
2013:
New Accounts: 50
Accounts Logged in: 274
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
Week 52:
2010:
New Accounts: 37
Accounts Logged in: 267
2011:
New Accounts: 24
Accounts Logged in: 226
2012:
New Accounts: 19
Accounts Logged in: 244
2013:
New Accounts: 45
Accounts Logged in: 268
2014:
New Accounts: no data (yet)
Accounts Logged in: no data (yet)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:40:15 GMT -5
here are a couple of ideas on how time could be better spent than arguing with people over whether an obscure text game a handful of people play has a declining playerbase: 1)doing anything else That supposes there's an argument. This is just a collection of data. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Jul 8, 2014 17:43:07 GMT -5
Well. i got some time to kill. Imma cram this in a database and play with the data.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 18:05:17 GMT -5
How are you concluding that it's veterans who are leaving to explain the lack of rise in player membership? Someone who played once, 4 months ago, who never played again, isn't a veteran. Yet his absence will count among the "people who no longer play." There are dozens and dozens and dozens of people who signed up and never played at all, or played for a couple of hours and couldn't figure out how to auto-map and gave up, and kids whose moms caught them mudsexing and took their computer away, etc. etc. None of those people have to have been "veterans" for them to be part of the set of "people who don't play Arm anymore."
So, unless you have names and e-mail addresses and account names of every single person who has left Arm, and can tell us how long they were active members, and define "active" so we can understand your context, and then tell us how long ago they stopped playing, Anaiah, your data has no context and is therefore meaningless.
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Post by jcarter on Jul 8, 2014 18:21:50 GMT -5
here are a couple of ideas on how time could be better spent than arguing with people over whether an obscure text game a handful of people play has a declining playerbase: 1)doing anything else pretty sure those ideas would have a lot more weight if they came from someone who didnt take the time to make and run an entire wiki and board devoted to sharing secrets and dissatisfaction with how an obscure text game is being run in the first place pot kettle. anyways i say share it all anaiah mmm yes because registering an account at boards.net and wikia.com is a time consuming affair. i'm honored tho that you think the sloppy website i cobbled together in a cracked version of adobe was a time consuming process |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 18:28:38 GMT -5
How are you concluding that it's veterans who are leaving to explain the lack of rise in player membership? Someone who played once, 4 months ago, who never played again, isn't a veteran. Yet his absence will count among the "people who no longer play." There are dozens and dozens and dozens of people who signed up and never played at all, or played for a couple of hours and couldn't figure out how to auto-map and gave up, and kids whose moms caught them mudsexing and took their computer away, etc. etc. None of those people have to have been "veterans" for them to be part of the set of "people who don't play Arm anymore." So, unless you have names and e-mail addresses and account names of every single person who has left Arm, and can tell us how long they were active members, and define "active" so we can understand your context, and then tell us how long ago they stopped playing, Anaiah, your data has no context and is therefore meaningless. How about going from a ratio of 9 returning accounts to 1 new account (unique logins/new accounts created) to a ratio of 1:1 with the same, and barely raising the number of people playing overall in that week by 10%? That of necessity proves that older accounts are being lost. And that is without even going in and using Nyr's numbers for how many new player's we're supposedly keeping... when the overall numbers ain't exactly climbing. Can you explain how that would work if we are not losing old accounts? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 18:41:46 GMT -5
You could be losing random accounts that were older, of people who rarely if ever played in the first place, and were never "veterans" at all, except for the fact of their starting date.
Someone who plays a couple hours every month, who's basically a weekend warrior, never gets involved in anything, has no karma, stays under the radar, doesn't post on the GDB, has no "fans" or kudoses, has nothing of note in their account notes, has no players on his buddy list, doesn't have "the map" or any other files that get passed around, and doesn't really give a shit - isn't a "veteran."
But we have no way of knowing whether these types exist, or how many of them there might be. You are concluding that there's something nefarious going on, when in fact nothing nefarious might be going on at all. Also, some people get older and simply stop being interested in muds. That doesn't mean anything is wrong with Armageddon. It means some people grow out of mudding.
It also could include people who used to play Arm back when it was a H&S, who never really intended to play an RPI but got caught up in it for awhile, played sometimes while it was an RPI, and eventually went back to their H&S roots. Or maybe it was people who were big fans of Halaster, and now that he's long gone, it just isn't the same for them anymore. Or maybe they were pals with Sanvean and only started playing because of her, and now that she's gone, they have no reason to stick around.
Fact remains, you have no idea why people leave, or how many of them were "veterans" and how many were just people who created accounts and poked around and left without ever learning anything about the game at all.
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