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Post by gloryhound on Jun 25, 2014 21:10:11 GMT -5
I'm going to side with the guy rejecting the lazy application. I'd let it through the first time, but I'd keep an eye open for repeat instances.
Nothing is stopping someone from proofreading his or her application and spell checking it, except apathy. A "let someone else do it for me" attitude.
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Jun 25, 2014 21:27:38 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me. But when I see something wrong around me I tend to try and fix it. This is how I live my life. This could be the silliest analogy ever but I saw a guy getting beaten up pretty savagely by 3 other guys downtown once in ATL and intervened when other people had their cell phones out recording it. I don't care what the circumstances were I felt I saw something wrong so I fixed it. Turns out the guy was gay and hit on one of the other guys friends so they just jumped him.
So like.. lol, the same goes for this if I see a typo/grammar error I fix it. That's just my personality.
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Post by nobodyatall on Jun 25, 2014 22:06:55 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me. But when I see something wrong around me I tend to try and fix it. This, especially if I CHOOSE TO BE STAFF ON A GAME AND DO APPLICATIONS. This is a choice you made. If you don't like it, quit staffing.
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Post by japheth on Jun 26, 2014 2:59:09 GMT -5
If you don't have time to fix a few typos to welcome a new player into your fold, then you should not be reviewing applications - period. If you are somehow so time poor that you can't even take time out of your busy schedule making custom crafts and items for your favourite pet PCs doing important admin stuff to fix a typo or two, well, maybe you should reprioritise your life. You're definitely not what any MUD needs in an admin.
I would go so far as to say that if you do not have time to fix a typo, you couldn't possibly have the time to properly give consideration to the application to make sure it is appropriate and fitting for your world. There are definitely people who do have this time and love helping bring new people into the RPI fold, so please, for all our sakes, stay the fuck away from reviewing applications ever again. It is not for you.
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Post by gloryhound on Jun 26, 2014 6:30:00 GMT -5
Maybe the admin should cook your breakfast and wipe your ass for you too, or he doesn't deserve to be an admin either, then?
If half of applications on Armageddon have typos, run on sentences etc. as Anaiah said, maybe it's because people are allowed to get away with pushing the work of writing in correct English onto the staff.
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Post by jcarter on Jun 26, 2014 9:20:26 GMT -5
Maybe the admin should cook your breakfast and wipe your ass for you too, or he doesn't deserve to be an admin either, then? this is silly. there's a difference between bending over backwards and coddling someone and not acting like the internet asshole of a DMV employee who sends you to the back of the line because you didn't initial line 4C. correcting typos in a desc is not the former. they're not pushing "work of writing in correct English onto staff". we're talking about typos here, not asking for revisions or anything beyond the most bare-bones of editing. as japheth said, if you're time is just too important and valuable to waste on creating a welcoming environment for players then maybe you should just stay in the backroom and work on the code or something as far removed from players as possible. your volunteer video game time is supposed to be fun, if you don't think it's fun then don't take up space in a role that someone could do a better job in with a better attitude because ugh those newbs and their run-on sentences.
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delerak
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Post by delerak on Jun 26, 2014 12:20:25 GMT -5
To me it's not about the fixing of a few minor typos or whatever. It's about someone having the incompetence to send the app back to the player, write up a conceited reply that would take them the same amount of time it would to just fix the damn thing and approve it. It's literally a colossal waste of time and it is inefficient as hell.
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Post by jjhardy on Jun 26, 2014 19:52:45 GMT -5
OR, the person doing the application could be dumb as fuck and can't spell.
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Post by nobodyatall on Jun 26, 2014 20:04:22 GMT -5
OR, the person doing the application could be dumb as fuck and can't spell. Right but we're not JUST talking about t2thej here. He's an example of someone who didn't want to do it because his command of the English language is so tenuous. But like, staffers who do know how to utilize the language should just fix the typo and move on. It's literally what they offered to do.
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Post by t2thej on Jun 26, 2014 20:13:10 GMT -5
To me it's not about the fixing of a few minor typos or whatever. It's about someone having the incompetence to send the app back to the player, write up a conceited reply that would take them the same amount of time it would to just fix the damn thing and approve it. It's literally a colossal waste of time and it is inefficient as hell. That's pretty rough. Especially considering they -just- opened their doors. Hopefully, this was an inexperienced staffer and steps have been taken.
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Post by topkekm8s on Jun 28, 2014 11:18:27 GMT -5
should i try this
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Post by nobodyatall on Jun 28, 2014 16:02:27 GMT -5
Probably not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 17:16:14 GMT -5
The staffers were great. The orc side players are not.
Seizing every possible excuse for griefer or pvp rp isnt my preferred style of play. Even in a group of evil bastards, the guy next to you in the shield wall, or the crafter making you armor has to get a little slack, or you die.
The group-or-die outdoor setup didnt help, either. My largest objection is that I couldnt get away from other players. Sometimes I just want to play for 15 min without being confronted, or jumped by a strong monster.
See ya, SoI.
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Post by Lizzie on Jun 28, 2014 18:16:34 GMT -5
Every experience with the game that I have had thus far would say otherwise.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Jun 28, 2014 23:50:27 GMT -5
I dunno. If something is important enough to reject an app over and it takes under a minute to hardcode the game to 1) fix it or 2) notify the player before submission. Well. i have to call the staff fucking idiots for not hardcoding the whatever.
If youre willing to reject an app over someone not capitalizing he first letter in an ldesc. And it takes longer to write evry rejection email than to hardcode the app process to autocorrect that. And you choose to do more work... what does that say about your motives? I mean does that mean you view the players as pets to train? do you just get off on correctng others? what possible reason could to have to make more work for yourself at the risk of alienating your playerbase? i mean whats the gain here?
That's mainly why I'm coming down on the side of calling this staff idiocy. When you reject an app for any reason you delay someone from playing your game. And if what they wrote was a clusterfuck then yeah i get it. Or if they only made a few small mistakes but it's enough that it's clear theyre not even trying i get that too.
But if it's rejected over a mistake your own code could detect and/or fix 100% of the time. And the mistake is small enough that you come off as petty or the notification would save players hours/days of waiting, you not only disappoint the potential player but risk driving them off. And you risk having them talk other people out of ever applying for the first time.
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