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Post by lyse on May 29, 2014 9:59:05 GMT -5
Once upon a time, in the golden age of Allanak, there was a truly horrible Nilazi that was rejected by a Borsail noblewoman, a woman he had been obsessing over for some time. She dressed him down in public, in plain view of a large number of VIPs for his pretension, her scorn costing him his job and social standing. It may be difficult for newer players to understand, but this was at a time where noble houses were of extreme importance and events like political weddings, public assassinations and even the occasional rash of violence in the streets or between House loyalists happened and were acknowledged at being a Big Deal. One's social standing was of tremendous importance, as opposed to now where it exists to decide whom may way silk panties in the Gaj and who may not. To lose it, in a public manner no less, would be life destroying if not immediately fatal. When he learned she was a lesbian and having a scandalous affair with a nubile young northern girl (you could have "girl" in your short descriptions at the time, so it made for some very disturbing couples), he used his power to take possession of her and lived with the noblewoman of his dreams for about a year before she became suspicious. He had done his research thanks to a Drovian contact (whom he killed prior to the body snatching, as he would later gloat), but he didn't know many of things he should, such as how women pleasure each other without the benefit of a phallus that the "former" girl knew oh so well. To be quite blunt, I think the player viewed some "lesbian" porn and winged it. It was simply embarrassing to observe. The noblewoman suspected something was wrong and confronted her young lover about her odd behavior, where he informed her of the situation in stunning, heartless brevity. She responded... poorly, to say the least, so he cut her with a tainted dagger, paralyzing her. She had chosen the location for the confrontation with privacy in mind, confident with a blade as she was, so there was no chance of them being discovered by accident. He had severed her connection to the rest of the Known World almost immediately, leaving her at his complete and utter mercy. As it turns out, he had none. When the token villains exposition was taken care of, he molested her in graphic detail, then bled her from the wrists until her heart stopped. And that, as they say, was that. For all their utility in grand, world inclusive plots, that isn't where they truly shine. It's in the way they can infiltrate your characters life and be close to them, live with them, sleep with them, be loved by them and you, the player, will never know about it until it's too late. Have you had a romantic relationship between your PC and another, where you came to know the other players style well enough that you 'know' it's them under their hood by they way they emote or their manner of speech? It can lead to a feeling of comfortable security for a lot of players, myself included. That one or two other PCs that have been with yours for game years, that you can trust to look out for you. Those PCs you aren't afraid to go AFK around while resting and vulnerable. You've even exchanged a few joking OOC messages with them over a typo here (like when you emote shit in the chair, rather than sit) or an accidental targeting when they walked in on a sparring session. They've had chance upon chance to betray you, leak your secrets, kill you when you're at low HP and resting, but they haven't, even when offered rewards from others for doing so. You know they aren't out to get you. Only, they are out to get you, quite literally, and you've been playing with a stranger for the last 90 RL days. You've been playing with the corpse of that trusted friend, controlled by a stranger. You had no idea, right up until they delivered you to the mantis head. Salt in the wound, you run into your old character in the bazaar, who strikes up a conversation with your new character, emulating your former character perfectly thanks to weeks of real time observing how you, the player, go about playing your character; the way you emote, the figures of speech, daily habits, likes and dislikes. Everything. They were getting to know you before they moved in and moved you out, permanently. It hits you right in the chest, leaving you sitting, staring, stunned that you, as a player, never had a clue what was really happening. It's a special kind of betrayal, one you have to experience to really understand the full effect of. If he took over the Borsail's body that would've been the icing on the cake. I'm just saying, that would've been truly twisted. It's little stories like that, that really make the game so much fun.
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Post by BitterFlashback on May 29, 2014 18:11:49 GMT -5
One standard imperial shitton of Nilazi evil <3 I don't often play elementalists. To be honest Im not a big fan. But when I do Nilazi are my favorite elementalist to play specifically because they're built around negating attacks, negating distance, and coming at people from totally unexpected directions. You cant even reliably find allies who know what you really are. I mean yeah a krathi can set you on fire. A whiran can snatch you up and drop you. But they can't do anythig worse than kill you. Nilazi... dont have that limitation. And by all rights if they only kill you theyre being lazy.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 18:49:24 GMT -5
Once upon a time, in the golden age of Allanak, there was a truly horrible Nilazi that was rejected by a Borsail noblewoman, a woman he had been obsessing over for some time. She dressed him down in public, in plain view of a large number of VIPs for his pretension, her scorn costing him his job and social standing. It may be difficult for newer players to understand, but this was at a time where noble houses were of extreme importance and events like political weddings, public assassinations and even the occasional rash of violence in the streets or between House loyalists happened and were acknowledged at being a Big Deal. One's social standing was of tremendous importance, as opposed to now where it exists to decide whom may way silk panties in the Gaj and who may not. To lose it, in a public manner no less, would be life destroying if not immediately fatal. When he learned she was a lesbian and having a scandalous affair with a nubile young northern girl (you could have "girl" in your short descriptions at the time, so it made for some very disturbing couples), he used his power to take possession of her and lived with the noblewoman of his dreams for about a year before she became suspicious. He had done his research thanks to a Drovian contact (whom he killed prior to the body snatching, as he would later gloat), but he didn't know many of things he should, such as how women pleasure each other without the benefit of a phallus that the "former" girl knew oh so well. To be quite blunt, I think the player viewed some "lesbian" porn and winged it. It was simply embarrassing to observe. The noblewoman suspected something was wrong and confronted her young lover about her odd behavior, where he informed her of the situation in stunning, heartless brevity. She responded... poorly, to say the least, so he cut her with a tainted dagger, paralyzing her. She had chosen the location for the confrontation with privacy in mind, confident with a blade as she was, so there was no chance of them being discovered by accident. He had severed her connection to the rest of the Known World almost immediately, leaving her at his complete and utter mercy. As it turns out, he had none. When the token villains exposition was taken care of, he molested her in graphic detail, then bled her from the wrists until her heart stopped. And that, as they say, was that. For all their utility in grand, world inclusive plots, that isn't where they truly shine. It's in the way they can infiltrate your characters life and be close to them, live with them, sleep with them, be loved by them and you, the player, will never know about it until it's too late. Have you had a romantic relationship between your PC and another, where you came to know the other players style well enough that you 'know' it's them under their hood by they way they emote or their manner of speech? It can lead to a feeling of comfortable security for a lot of players, myself included. That one or two other PCs that have been with yours for game years, that you can trust to look out for you. Those PCs you aren't afraid to go AFK around while resting and vulnerable. You've even exchanged a few joking OOC messages with them over a typo here (like when you emote shit in the chair, rather than sit) or an accidental targeting when they walked in on a sparring session. They've had chance upon chance to betray you, leak your secrets, kill you when you're at low HP and resting, but they haven't, even when offered rewards from others for doing so. You know they aren't out to get you. Only, they are out to get you, quite literally, and you've been playing with a stranger for the last 90 RL days. You've been playing with the corpse of that trusted friend, controlled by a stranger. You had no idea, right up until they delivered you to the mantis head. Salt in the wound, you run into your old character in the bazaar, who strikes up a conversation with your new character, emulating your former character perfectly thanks to weeks of real time observing how you, the player, go about playing your character; the way you emote, the figures of speech, daily habits, likes and dislikes. Everything. They were getting to know you before they moved in and moved you out, permanently. It hits you right in the chest, leaving you sitting, staring, stunned that you, as a player, never had a clue what was really happening. It's a special kind of betrayal, one you have to experience to really understand the full effect of. This is how telling your OOC friends that you died can really screw up cool things. I wish some Nilazi would take over one of my old characters. That'd be pretty sweet, unless they go do all kinds of awesome stuff, getting streets and villages named after them. But then I could always say... yeah, that was me. LOL
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Post by dcdc on May 31, 2014 14:59:31 GMT -5
Its why I actually get why there is a ban on OOC communication. Because you can't trust some players to separate OOC from IC. People get way to attached to their characters and will use an OOC method to get ahead and survive.
It's a tricky situation for sure. Personally, I can separate the two. I can keep my IC knowledge and OOC knowledge from mixing (most of the time, every role player has this issue). I don't blame people for getting attached, or being dirty bastards about what they know OOC, considering past abuses by staff avatars and pets. But it sure does kill fun, for everyone involved.
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Post by lyse on May 31, 2014 16:38:44 GMT -5
Its why I actually get why there is a ban on OOC communication. Because you can't trust some players to separate OOC from IC. People get way to attached to their characters and will use an OOC method to get ahead and survive. It's a tricky situation for sure. Personally, I can separate the two. I can keep my IC knowledge and OOC knowledge from mixing (most of the time, every role player has this issue). I don't blame people for getting attached, or being dirty bastards about what they know OOC, considering past abuses by staff avatars and pets. But it sure does kill fun, for everyone involved. It's one of those contradictory things about Arm. You can put your AIM on your profile in the GDB. That's kinda saying OOC communication IS allowed.
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Post by herpderp on Apr 10, 2015 1:11:07 GMT -5
Posting because of comments by julio, Procrastination, Prime Minister Sinister and a few others piqued my interest: Possess Corpse Mentioned that a Nilazi can possess a corpse, hinted at it possibly being permanent. How does this work? Are there sdesc/mdesc hints that it is a possessed corpse? What happens to your old body? Pile of ashes? Just falls down dead? Do you keep your current stats, or do you take on the stats of the corpse? Can you only possess humanoids? Or could you take over a mantis? If you took over a mantis could you ever possess another corpse, or since you can't speak (in the same way) would you be stuck forever as a mantis?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 16, 2015 19:59:57 GMT -5
You cast a spell. At mon it's permanent. At any other level, you leave your body behind until the spell wears off or the inhabited body is killed. i am unaware of what happens if your body is killed before you get back. Are there sdesc/mdesc hints that it is a possessed corpse? Nope. What happens to your old body? Pile of ashes? Just falls down dead? At mon? not sure. Do you keep your current stats, or do you take on the stats of the corpse? you keep your mental stats and your skills. You pick up the corpse's physical stats and clan associations. Can you only possess humanoids? Or could you take over a mantis? i rcall reading someone possessed a kankfly and used it to fuck with people, so no and yes, respectively. If you took over a mantis could you ever possess another corpse, or since you can't speak (in the same way) would you be stuck forever as a mantis? You could possess anothr corps. Spells are language-independent.
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Post by sirra on Apr 17, 2015 10:29:57 GMT -5
Once upon a time, in the golden age of Allanak, there was a truly horrible Nilazi... I loved everything about this post. It's too bad that these days, people would be skyping about getting killed by a nilazi after ninety seconds, let alone ninety RL days.
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Post by jkarr on Apr 17, 2015 10:35:29 GMT -5
Once upon a time, in the golden age of Allanak, there was a truly horrible Nilazi... I loved everything about this post. It's too bad that these days, people would be skyping about getting killed by a nilazi after ninety seconds, let alone ninety RL days. haha they did that shit back in the day too. they just used aim and irc to cry about it
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Post by grumble on Apr 17, 2015 17:55:23 GMT -5
if i new i wuz plaing with a neelazy hoo posesed mai frend and wuz tryng 2 kil me i wuld chainj nuthyng bcuz holee shit thats a gud end 2 a pc.
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Post by mood on Apr 18, 2015 0:03:58 GMT -5
if i new i wuz plaing with a neelazy hoo posesed mai frend and wuz tryng 2 kil me i wuld chainj nuthyng bcuz holee shit thats a gud end 2 a pc.
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Post by julio on Apr 25, 2015 3:14:32 GMT -5
SO my understanding is.... A Nilazi can EASILY fake their own death, probably several times. Make a corpse look like they do. Then Do it AGAIn and AGAIn. You can have your own corpse everywhere. People would think you're cheating... because you don't seem to stop dying.
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Post by Patuk on Apr 25, 2015 3:43:46 GMT -5
You're not quite wrong, but there is this one thing anyone can do to see if the death is fake:
contact amos
People just kind of vanishing doesn't really happen because of the Way's infallibility. The only way I could see it work is if you were a Nilazi and just never used a pseudonym, ever, and switched bodies on the regular.
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Post by grumble on Apr 25, 2015 4:58:03 GMT -5
i hav sene nilazis do horible theengz 2 us.... also tehy were prolly rokin tha neckbeard, oh fuck yes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 8:25:18 GMT -5
You're not quite wrong, but there is this one thing anyone can do to see if the death is fake: contact amos People just kind of vanishing doesn't really happen because of the Way's infallibility. The only way I could see it work is if you were a Nilazi and just never used a pseudonym, ever, and switched bodies on the regular. Psionic suppression, though?
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