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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 13:52:49 GMT -5
Dear forum firends, I tink this is prety gud mud. But whare is everybody? Mudsex? Twink fest? Spam crefting? -A very confused beetle. All of those, also hunting, hanging out in the taverns (The Bastard or the Fancy), or the new Teahouse, which are public gathering spots out of the weather.  |
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Post by delerak on Oct 10, 2014 20:04:54 GMT -5
Dear forum firends, I tink this is prety gud mud. But whare is everybody? Mudsex? Twink fest? Spam crefting? -A very confused beetle. Why not pose this question on their forums? I find it ironic that people seem to be adverse to using the actual game forums opposed to using these. 9 Pages about Esos? hmm. |
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Post by legendary on Oct 10, 2014 21:10:12 GMT -5
You can say whatever you want here and be anonymous and free from retaliation.
I suspect many people are so used to Armageddon and it's overbearing, nonsensical style of 'forum justice' and related account penalties that they're reluctant to even give other forums a chance to be different.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 21:35:05 GMT -5
So I'm a noob.
I'm considering trying out a character in this mud. Their Combat and magick helpfiles seem to be empty.
What would be ten things worth knowing before I create a character?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 12:44:06 GMT -5
1. If you want to play an Enclave pc (one of the members of the Hand families in the New Kaiden docs), you need to email staff a background to work out the details and get the ring (they have a level of power and privilege not afforded to non-Enclave pcs, like stipends and compounds and family who run the city)
2. Do not think you can kill X or Y unless it's a rabbit. There is a lot of stuff outside just waiting to eat your face off. And the bears are mid-ranged difficulty and they are about as quick to curbstomp most players as a bahamet. There's a good reason for the publicly accessible fighting pits. You need them if you plan to do anything with combat.
3. No known human has magic, or has had it, since the human race was nearly abolished. It's generally kill on sight.
4. Coins are not everything, not even close. There are plenty to go around if you know the right people or do the right things. But do not mistake them for power, because unlike in Arm, they aren't.
5. Pretty much everything that happens is player driven, and shit gets crazy fast sometimes.
6. Staff are happy to put things in the game that are player created and player submitted. It might take time, but damn near everything will go in.
7. There are 10 people who are above the Law. They make up the Council that rules the city. 1 and in some cases, both, of these people for each Enclave, are played by actual PCs. They have the power of red robed templars, roughly, and are the city's highest authority.
8. You can pretty easily avoid those pcs by staying in the slums/ruins/bad side of town.
9. Hoods and masks hide your description. But people can still look at your eyes and see your eye color.
10. Whether it's a new clan, a wagon, a hidey hole in the woods, it really doesn't matter. This game, unlike Arm, is about the story of each character. Not about the story of the world itself, though the story of the world itself is dictated by those characters' cumulative stories. And this is part of why players are given so much more latitude.
Bonus things:
Use the peer command. You can 'peer south east' to see 3 rooms south and 3 rooms east, and the rooms between. You can 'peer' and see your room and what's in the rooms around you, or just 'peer south' etc, to get the 3 room view there.
If you enjoy the Byn in Arm, you'll probably want to join the Grey Company, as they are similar.
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Post by legendary on Oct 14, 2014 18:19:12 GMT -5
So I'm a noob. I'm considering trying out a character in this mud. Their Combat and magick helpfiles seem to be empty. What would be ten things worth knowing before I create a character? Intended to hit quote, there. 1) Be polite to everyone you meet until you know where you stand. 2) Keep out of the slums if you aren't a slummer. 3) Keep out of the wilderness if you aren't in a group, high skilled in stealth, combat or both. 4) The people that currently run most of the plots or can be your way into plots quickly: -Emmy, Slums (lower class) -Lily, Everywhere (middle class) -Baroness Nathiria Nadu, Everywhere (upper class) 5) Magic is considered to be universally evil and most people would hate it. 6) Elves are the hated enemies of humanity and most people would hate them. 7) Dwarves are treated by many as second class citizens, having been conquered by humanity. 8) Combat characters are currently (as of this post) in high demand; warriors, rangers and people with an interest in suicide adventure beyond the walls. 9) Social characters (Assistants, Prostitutes, Artists of all stripes, etc.) are in high demand. 10) Stealth characters (Assassins, Thieves, etc) make up most of the PCs in Kaiden, followed by merchants. Low demand. |
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Oct 16, 2014 13:40:14 GMT -5
So far, the playerbase is beyond bad. The HS/college clique-ish and autistic social tendencies from MUSHes combined with the worst twinks from Arm. Setting and code is awesome, but any player interaction is painful so far. Who's this historian?
And what's up with there being no stat orders? What kind of stats are normal to see?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 19:49:23 GMT -5
I think I'm just going to start ignoring any of your posts that have the word autistic in them as you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I'd ask how you'd feel is I started using 'terminal dickhead' to describe random groups of people in a negative light, but I doubt you'd feel offended as you likely don't see the quality in yourself.
20 players on in a single city though, at peak times, is number that, per city, rival those of Arm, however.
Historian is, so far as I am aware, dead. Player interaction is a mixed bag, it depends on the player, as with most RPIs. No, there are not stat orders, but if you wish up about it right when you're still in the OOC approval room, you can usually get points taken from one stat and added to another, etc. Normal stats as well as verbal stat ranges are posted on the forums there.
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Oct 16, 2014 23:36:43 GMT -5
. 20 players on in a single city though, at peak times, is number that, per city, rival those of Arm, however. What I'll try to understand the correct usage of all medical terms in the future so I can properly convey my feelings about... autism... on the... Internet. *le fedora tip le autism wink* I guess the Historian didn't... Study His History! Oooooh! Maybe I'll check out the forums. Need to enhance my grind to compete with the twink playerbase. |
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Post by anoobarak on Oct 17, 2014 1:11:49 GMT -5
Changed my opinion. Starting to agree with RGS
This game is kind of constipated by which I mean poopy and insular.
At least you can go around auto attacking things in arm?
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Post by legendary on Oct 30, 2014 5:42:02 GMT -5
I died. It was fun for a time but I'm mostly over it.
I'm in love with what they're trying to do but I can never get started unless I play a tavern social character, something I'm loathe to do when everyone starts off better than I do. I'm rather tired of having every character I create stuck in the begging leper section of society. I seem to be the only person not invited to play a special noble role and given how many of these people do nothing with the privilege but spar, I'm feeling a little put off that I'm the one being excluded.
I suppose it's my fault for not joining in the orgy of boot licking on the forums.
When it's good, it's superb and there is more creative options there than any other RPI as of current. Unfortunately, if you aren't in a special category of preferred players, you will never amount to more than someone that exists to be beaten about by Enclaves. I suppose some might enjoy a role where your sole purpose is to be abused by those with a staff nod of approval, but I am not one of those people and I've run out of patients for dealing with the wilderness.
In many ways, it feels as if they're turning New Kaiden into not-Allanak. If I wanted Allanak, however, I could have the real thing any time I please.
Disappointed, but it is still better than the other non-Arm options.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 7:54:18 GMT -5
You aren't invited to them. You ask for them! Try it, the staff love if you come up with a concept and email it to them for review. The "special category of preferred" players, doesn't really exist. I've played non-enclavers, enclavers, and there's alot you can do, it just depends on what and HOW you do it. If you want a fun role to play, I can give you one IG right now, and there's a good bit of social, a good bit of violence, and a good bit of travel involved. IMO, you have to put in the effort to see results, and sometimes it may be hard as fuck, but worth it. Besides, if you're sick of being beaten by enclaves, make a plot to beat THEM. They can bleed too  (really, send in a concept for real tho, if you want to play an enclaver, ask and they will probably give you the role, if you're willing to put in the effort and don't have a bad history) The important thing to remember, is it isn't about being in an enclave. Sometimes, being an enclave won't even be fun. You're restricted to do what your enclave does. Not being in one, you don't get the social or political power, but hey, you have the freedom to do YOU. Even if staff told you no, you can't play in this enclave, well you know what? Make a pc, and work IG to JOIN the enclave. You can do that. EoE is all about your pc's story, and how it contributes to the game world. This isn't arm. It better fucking not be. The staff aren't going to tell you - no, no, no you can't do this or that, because it isn't what we want in our game, or we're volunteers, fuck doing work. This game is older than alot of other RPI muds out there. They realize the importance of allowing players play what they want to play, do what they want to do. Everything you do IG, has an effect on the game world, which we, the PLAYERS shape, NOT the staff. They will tell you to put in the effort, time and roleplay to achieve what you want to do. If you want to build a castle on a fucking mountain, put in the work. Hire builders, collect stone and mortar, build it, save the logs, send it in, and you have a castle on a fucking mountain. If you want to tame a hawk, you find a hawks nest and you jack an egg and raise it. The real importance of this, is don't be afraid to communicate with staff, and ask them to help you with your plots, animating stuff, loading crap like a wolf's den with puppies to jack one and tame it. They may not be online when you do, that's okay. Email them. Just be reasonable, and treat them with the respect they deserve (by not going crazy with your requests/demanding shit and never putting the work in) and they will treat you with the respect you deserve as a player, who takes the time to come and play on the game they've worked so hard to maintain. Every player is worth a thousand in EoE, don't ever feel left out. Last thing....the people who are enclavers, or have some high position IG, either they asked for the role, or worked their ASSES off to get where they are. Starting off as chargen IG, you are the bottom of the food chain. It's all on you to get where you want to be. |
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Oct 30, 2014 10:41:44 GMT -5
I died. It was fun for a time but I'm mostly over it. I'm in love with what they're trying to do but I can never get started unless I play a tavern social character, something I'm loathe to do when everyone starts off better than I do. I'm rather tired of having every character I create stuck in the begging leper section of society. I seem to be the only person not invited to play a special noble role and given how many of these people do nothing with the privilege but spar, I'm feeling a little put off that I'm the one being excluded. I suppose it's my fault for not joining in the orgy of boot licking on the forums. When it's good, it's superb and there is more creative options there than any other RPI as of current. Unfortunately, if you aren't in a special category of preferred players, you will never amount to more than someone that exists to be beaten about by Enclaves. I suppose some might enjoy a role where your sole purpose is to be abused by those with a staff nod of approval, but I am not one of those people and I've run out of patients for dealing with the wilderness. In many ways, it feels as if they're turning New Kaiden into not-Allanak. If I wanted Allanak, however, I could have the real thing any time I please. Disappointed, but it is still better than the other non-Arm options. Agreed. I'd ignore prodo, he's a certified bootlicker. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 14:02:13 GMT -5
No, that's literally how it works. If you want an Enclave roll, all you have to do is email the background for the concept and establish what you want the pc to be first. The only people who are 'invited' to roles were 'invited' before humans opened. Every single role since then that was made was a result of a role call or player demand on behalf of one of those initial roles. I would know, I've been playing for months, and that's how I got MY enclave member pc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 14:15:32 GMT -5
Also. If you make a character with an enclaver name, staff tend to ask if you are going to be in the enclave or not before going in. The only real "role-calls" are Baron/Baronesses.
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(really, send in a concept for real tho, if you want to play an enclaver, ask and they will probably give you the role, if you're willing to put in the effort and don't have a bad history)