Southlands, EOE?

Nearly everyone has been banned?  We've banned, in FIFTEEN YEARS, three people.  Three.  No more than that.  One of those three was fifteen years ago when we first opened and one was this last week who decided to drunkenly rant at me and then give me a death threat.  Aside from one other person, that's it.  You're being mislead, or you're saber rattling.  Either way, your information is bad.  We err more on the side of giving people the benefit of the doubt than curb stomping them.

As for giving everything to my friends in Nadvasar, I think you're wrong there as well.  We've built entire forts for players to operate out of (2 of them to be precise), tried to rolecall for Kavka more than once in the hopes that someone would have enough in them to play an equal footing rival to Nadu, which is traditionally what they are.  We've consolidated down the bulky leadership of the enclaves from ten people to five, then atop that made two of those virtual.  So of those three, there's been turnover of one of them who had been around for a long time.  Sundown was given resources exclusive to them.  Kavka was given resources exclusive to them.  So the opportunity has always been there.

Oh and if a shop doesn't have a skinning knife in it, most people tend to wish up and say "Hey, can I get a skinning knife loaded here?"  Since they are easily craftable, we tend to let things like that be player driven in the economy.

If you don't want to toady, don't.  Nobody is making you.  There are plenty of places to go and things to do that are not reliant in trying to rub elbows with the people you don't want to.  It's why there are multiple taverns and different, obvious sections of the city.

Counter questions for Jazet

1) If you were going to play a rival to Nadu (or whichever PC is the queen bee) how would you do it? What character concept would you run? What role would you request?

2) Have you thought of creating a guide or tutorial to educate players on any unspoken aspects of your game such as the never before mentioned wish up for something in a shop? (not mentioned on this thread)

3) What is your current peak average in players and what would you do with another 10 players with such a limited staff?

I was banned, accused of 'saber rattling' and yes, that was the exact phrasing. The Sundown never worked for reasons we talked about a fair bit. Like making them pacifists who hunt for sport and profit, the inability to support themselves without Nadu, the fact everyone was forced more or less into their pockets by making them the financiers AND the ones for some odd reason in charge of the land. Oh Kaden and Avasar are the only barons around aside from Nathiria? And Sundown and Kavka kept plotting against them but pcs can no longer play one. So color me shocked.

BTW: My husband still plays EOE from time to time. I, on the other hand, do not, since being banned.

Actually, if you read what I posted, Kavka is open and Kaden is not.  Does that still color you shocked?

Sundown was broken, by and large, because of leadership, leadership's decisions and the way they approached the world.  After being given every benefit to move forward as hunters, scouts, members of the economy, they took the hard line of not wanting to exchange trade for coin, not wanting to hunt for the sake of hunting, not exploring, not scouting, and focusing only and entirely on woodworking and crafts. 

As for the rest, yes, Nadu controls the bank and the hard currency.  Nowhere does it say that Nadu controls the land.  Each enclave has their own sections of the city to develop as they desire, each enclave has property outside of that initial area and each enclave can build it up and develop it as they see fit.  You keep feeding accurate information, glazed with entirely inaccurate and biased information, which makes you come across as being truthful enough to be right, except that you're largely wrong. 

There is an Avasar Baron, who has been in the role 2 weeks or so, a Nadu Baroness who has been in place for a few months and a Kavka Baron who has been around a couple months.  Are you still colored shocked?

Lastly, I'm not sure why or where you come of the notion that things should all be equal, balanced and fair in any game world, much less this one?  Why is it necessary for everyone to start out entirely even in all things?  Life isn't fair.  Some people get it easier, some people have to basically kill themselves to get anywhere?  So who says that there should be fairness and equality in a fantasy setting where there's no requirement for there to be such?  It makes NO sense at all.

Your issue was that whenever someone was "mean" to your character, you'd bury your head in the sand IC'ly, stop playing for days and weeks at a time then go to complain on other boards about how unfair the game is.  I was watching, you had an opportunity to assume FULL leadership of your clan, with no glass ceiling, and you screwed it up.  You had the chance, you could have been a difference maker, and you didn't come out ahead.  Had you worked on allies in your own clan, which was pretty stocked with pcs at the time, you would likely have been doing something of value and worth with the concept.  Instead, you got frustrated, buried your head in the sand and prepared to retire your pc.

While doing this, you came to this board to out -me- as feeding contrary information to the readers, when it wasn't me on the board doing so.  Instead of just asking me, you decided to point fingers and try to damage the reputation of the game itself, and that's why you got banned.  The thing is, had you really sat down and thought about who it was posting on here and antagonizing you, you likely could have trailed back the characters they said they were involved with to figure out who they used to play and who they were playing at the time of your posting.  Instead, it's easier to point at Jazet and just say he's a shit spouting boogeyman.

But the point still stands, each enclave were given things in their sphere of influence to use to their benefit, to not only build up their power base but to expand upon their own goals and agenda with.  Believe me, I'd love for the mud to be filled with scheming, hard core, nefarious bastards, but by and large, they tend to be people who are happy to skill up and bury their head in the sand when things get rough.

This is certainly true when I was playing. A lot of players were given ridiculous setups. The problem is this leads to a lot of confusion by players. How do you decide who gets X amount of money from their background. To me it felt like there was no actual policy in place which is fine. I never gave a shit about all the unique gear people were running around in, my fight was always with the pbase itself. I just never saw any really interesting characters at the game and that's a testament to how green that playerbase was (or still is?).

It's up to the players to do stuff, I ran a pretty successful RPT that had a ton of players show up and that's the only good thing I ever did. Partly my fault but partly the fault of the players playing the game that weren't receptive at all to what I was trying to do.

my xperiens was ok bcuz i got 2 shape teh mindset uv a race bak wen it was jst elf and fish pepl

Part of the problem would be that people are afraid to actually wish up and engage staff, they are too timid to actually try and make a difference, it is because of how they are engrained to react to the staff and the game world.  It's absurd to think that you can't wish up if you have a problem finding tools.  And if you're getting a snide response, it's from me, because I'm the one that tends to handle replies to wishes in the human side.  So sure, if you've got a problem there, it's with me.

As for the resources and management of things in the city, where did you get the impression that anything has to be fair or even?  There is no written or unwritten rule that things have to be equal for everyone?  Sure, a mud where there is no racism and social class?  Sounds great.

Control the slums?  No, thanks though.  Now if you've interacted with npcs and you think they are pcs, well, I must be a better roleplayer than I thought, or, shit, you were immersed in the game?  Imagine that.

People come and go all the time, people feel victimized by the staffing mindset of making the game actually personal for each character who logs in.  So when you show up and the story smacks you right in the face, and you're shocked...that's not our fault, that's how we do things.  We tell everyone:  HELLO, you're the central character in the story, get ready for some shit.  But be warned, this mud isn't for everyone.

It's -different- than what you're used to.  And it isn't a style everyone likes.  That doesn't make it shit, that doesn't make the staff biased.  It's just not what you're used to.  I've put people in roles of power based on the initial conversation I've had with them the first time we've spoken.