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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 15:19:06 GMT -5
Battle-Beards  Does being decked out in full steel plate armor with a massive battle-axe  ON A BIG ASS ARMORED BOAR
 Among your fellow dwarven kin with beards as long as yours and just as armored and bad-ass as you, drinking kegs by night, and marching under the banner Battle-Beards Sound fun to you?
This is a role-call for EoE. The site is www.eoemud.com/ here for you, and I'd highly recommend going to the discussion board. db.eoemud.com/index.phpMake an account, an you can see some general documentation for the city you'll be first logging into, should you make a dwarf. Until you're added to the subclan forum for being a dwarf, any one interested should PM me here, or on the the discussion board for EoE, same username. EoE is a harsh world. In it, lives humans, dwarves, elves, duxthu (like elves but with gills, bigger and not immortal) and goblins. Where we will be focused is mainly in the forest. The game-world is huge. Over 20,000 rooms easily, theres plenty of places to go in any direction. The playerbase isn't big, but it is active. Especially so for the dwarves, currently living in New Kaiden. New Kaiden is the human city, but it was originally the dwarves, before the humans took it. A small number of the dwarves were spared. Less than two hundred remain, in the race total. Humans are over five thousand in number, and I don't know the numbers for the others,  Right now, there is six dwarven pcs, four of them active, the other two not so much of lately. There's been good and bad reviews about the mud, but roleplaying as a dwarf in the Battle-beards crew is a whole other ball-game to EoE. It isn't just New Kaiden. It's the entire world. The dwarves will be set smack-dab in a big-ass stone fortress made by perfect dwarven masonry, surrounded by trees sky high, and plenty of game to go around. After years and years of living and tolerating their situation, living in a dwarven ghetto in the human city, as second-class citizens, having no voice on the council...some dwarves grew ambitious and began building a future. Our future. Humans and elves warred once, humans nearly being slaughtered in the events that followed. Time has been passing and dwarves seized the opportunity. They built that fortress, to rebuild and open up trade. The elves need things from the humans and the humans need things from the elves. But they hate each other. Both races somewhat get along with the dwarves however. Dwarves can be stubborn, but are loyal to their friends, damn good workers, and even better fighters. This is the setting you'll be in, shortly. The fort is nearly complete, within a matter of days to a week in RL, but until that time, we'll be in the dwarven ghetto of New Kaiden. You will have experienced players teaching yo on everything you'll need to know to survive and have fun in EoE. There are down times, but things always pick back up. Theres tons of possibilities, and -ANYTHING- is possible with enough roleplay and work. You want a bad-ass sword? Make one. Don't have metal? Find or make a mine. Wanna fly? Build something. Need a house to live in? Build one. Whatever you want, you got it, as long as you put in the effort and roleplay. We need: - Dwarven smiths, crafters, builders, chiselers and such. (Merchant) - Amazing walking death-reapers with whatever big ass weapon you decide to buy or make. - Skilled dwarves in the wilds, outside the walls and into the forest, ensuring the safety of the dwarven kin from afar. - Female dwarves. It's fucked up but true. With less than 200 left in our race, the dwarves have to repopulate. Totally enoucraged to put a virtual dwarven sister, or mother and father in there, just so another 'dwarf couple' somewhere in the fort is having kids. If you contact me and make a character, I'll say right now i'm assuming your interested in playing, and me and the other dwarven pcs will do our damn best to show you a good time, among human and elf ones as well. We'll be training and teaching you how to remain long-lived as shit. We're making a story practically. So! Pm me for details if you are interested. Theres a whole lot going on for the dwarves right now, and you can be a part of that.
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Post by delerak on Jan 31, 2015 17:19:14 GMT -5
Can you give me some examples how EoE is a harsh world?
Hasn't there been a fair amount of dwarven PCs on EoE? How can you explain the fact that there are 200 dwarves yet there have probably been 30-40 PC dwarves. That's almost 25% of the population gone already so is it
a static 200 or is there now only 150 left? Is it realistic
that the playerbase is even allowed to play such a dwindling population considering that PCs tend to die/retire a lot.
Why? What separates your clan from any others?
Are all dwarves born with this uncanny ability to build big-ass stone fortresses? Or is it just the players asking Jazet to have a fort?
Can you list some of the players involved? Possible characters they may have played at the other RPIs so we can decide for ourselves whether they are as experienced as you claim?
What do you mean here. "Put in the effort and roleplay" is a very vague statement. You're claiming anyone can get anything they want and that is a very broad statement. So if I want an army I can go around
roleplaying that I'm recruiting vNPCs in an effort to build an army and I will eventually have an army that I can crush the pbase with?
Long lived means nothing if you're not having fun. What really makes this role fun? Why should I come make a dwarf at EoE when other games have my attention right now? What is going to be fun about it?
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Post by Jeshin on Jan 31, 2015 18:20:02 GMT -5
I applaud your posting here as recognition this board has a lot of MUD players with free time willing to try something out. Should your posting be true and your MUD righteous, god willing you will find players! db.eoemud.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=517 --- I like how the first section is very careful to always say (wo)man and (wo)men but then at the end it goes full on male in descriptive words. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 19:05:26 GMT -5
Can you give me some examples how EoE is a harsh world? King-deer and bears walk around the hills around New Kaiden, keeping a number of pc's couped up in the city because of how dangerous they are. The forest is three times as dangerous as that. The first visit into the Forest with the Battle-beard crew, we were once ambushed by seven goblins, once swarmed by worms, we ran into a gorvor, and avoided a lonisel. Goblins can actually be pc's, and grow to be powerful - we lost our mounts due to them and had to run. Worms have poison, and other worms are attracted to the smell of your poison. Gorvor are big ass shelled birds that like stomp you, (killed a former Sundown Baron) and Lonisel are big ass lions. Enough said about Lonisels. We've had multiple close encounters, and have nearly died or narrowly avoided a serious threat to your pc, a few times now, and we only just began exploring the Forest a little while back.Hasn't there been a fair amount of dwarven PCs on EoE? How can you explain the fact that there are 200 dwarves yet there have probably been 30-40 PC dwarves. That's almost 25% of the population gone already so is it a static 200 or is there now only 150 left? Is it realistic that the playerbase is even allowed to play such a dwindling population considering that PCs tend to die/retire a lot. The dwarves didn't start off with less than 200 dwarves in the beginning of the world. From my time in New Kaiden, I've probably only come across five dead dwarves. It's a static 200, but the numbers will begin to rise, if pc's don't go off and die (which is why we train yah)Why? What separates your clan from any others? My clan is separated from both humans and elves alike in the sense that it's a dwarf-only clan. Nearly every enclave other than Nadu in New Kaiden, (can't speak for elven cities because I haven't played an elf in ages) would hire dwarves in New Kaiden. This is the first clan since the birth of New Kaiden to be actually 'living' in the forest. With elves to the west of you, humans to the east of you, and goblins threatening to attack or raid from the south. The battle-beards are very pro-dwarf. Everything they do has a reason, and they work to aid and better their position for dwarves.Are all dwarves born with this uncanny ability to build big-ass stone fortresses? Or is it just the players asking Jazet to have a fort? Hell no they don't, and no again. the fort was built and looked over by PC's, and no one in the battle-beard crew, nor myself were involved in it's being built. it was other, much much much longer lived dwarven pc's efforts, along with the virtual working dwarven force brave enough to get the job done. Unlike humans and elves, alot of dwarves are very pro-dwarf, working together, and so forth. They only have each other left, so...the fact they have such a hard-ship, can bring alot of dwarves closer together.Can you list some of the players involved? Possible characters they may have played at the other RPIs so we can decide for ourselves whether they are as experienced as you claim? Yeah? And how do you intend to determine that? Does having a full knowledge of Armageddon, or Soi, Harshlands and so forth have anything to do with the knowledge you gain about EoE's world from playing EoE? We have one dwarven player, who had to step down as Chieftan (basically king to dwarves) and his dwarf is over 100 years old. I'm not sharing his info due to him not really wanting it to be out to anyone other than who's -in- the dwarven clans right now. Then we have the player of Sert, who's a long-lived merchant, (I don't know his forum handle) and then the other active player's forum handle on here, (who has posted in this very thread, saying play dwarves) is Magickmarco or something like that, he's on the tenth page. I'm not really wanting to give out their forum handles from the discussion board without their permission. But, the fact currently, the dwarf pc's alive, other than Jaxor and Sert, are the longest lived we've ever had, and they've been mighty more successful in hunting, exploring, gather materials than damn near every human since the birth of New Kaiden. I myself have played EoE for a couple of years now, and have began to gather RP points. When I say 'experienced', I mean having knowledge of the game world on what you should and shouldn't do, what you can and can't do, what you can gather, where you can gather it, what will kill you, what won't kill you, so on and so forth. I wouldn't call myself experienced when it comes to playing multiple muds for years and years and years. Not in the slightest, but I do know what I know about EoE, which is a large amount.What do you mean here. "Put in the effort and roleplay" is a very vague statement. You're claiming anyone can get anything they want and that is a very broad statement. So if I want an army I can go around roleplaying that I'm recruiting vNPCs in an effort to build an army and I will eventually have an army that I can crush the pbase with?
Back to what you had said earlier, about players 'asking' Jazet for the fort. No, you can't ask Jazet for a fort, and have one shitted out for you. You have to spend the time and effort to build it, and certain pc's -did- spend IG month and months building it. Same goes with your example, really. If you want an army, you can go around, roleplaying recruiting both pc's and npcs, and if you have money to hire them, or some other 'method' to recruit them, you can totally get an army to attempt to crush the player-base with. Theres so many ways you could try and recruit an army. Yes, you can do that.Long lived means nothing if you're not having fun. What really makes this role fun? Why should I come make a dwarf at EoE when other games have my attention right now? What is going to be fun about it? I completely agree with you. Fuck being long-lived, fuck having a character at all if you aren't having fun.
This is what I've gathered to be 'fun' about the role.
- You and your fellow dwarven kin determine the fate of your race.
- We started from scratch, and actually being able to have a huge effect on the game world, by performing acts for the dwarven people, is extremely fun. One winter, when we were very very poor and low on food and clothing, we managed a bargain to have the dwarven ghetto stocked and supplied with food and clothing for winter. That had an effect on the game world, and it was an awesome feeling. That's just one example.
- Having access to armor and weaponry that humans would have to work their asses off to get. Dwarves own the sole rights to producing steel arms and armor.
- Having a base of operations (the dwarven fort) To occupy, in which both humans and elves alike will come to trade.
- Being part of a group of active, roleplaying dwarves who march around, hunting, exploring, training, drinking tankards and kegs by night, who actually get shit done, as opposed to sitting around and tavern idling all day. You won't be getting thrown into some twink, no roleplay clan, like lolz omergurd we have so much coolz stuffs that we worked forz, lets twink and look cool......Fuck that. Everything we do, we roleplay and make things as realistic as possible.
- Being surrounded by a forest, full of ancient ruins, caves, hidden artifacts and items and a fuck-ton of npc-beasts, both dangerous and not.
- Keep in mind, that all of the above, was a result of PC actions. Everything that's possible for you, if you roll in as a dwarf under the Battle-beard banner, was a direct result of pc's who worked their asses off, making these things possible. Even more -is- possible, and we need -your- help to get it done. We need -more- ideas for the dwarves to do. We need -more- plots. Alot of players quit arm due to shitty staff, and finding out the truth about the 'illusion' of being able to change anything in the game world. Well, in EoE you -can- change anything in the game world, and that's just what the dwarves are trying to do. Change their future.
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Post by magickermarco on Jan 31, 2015 20:36:21 GMT -5
Well, I for one have enjoyed my time playing EoE, and yes I play a Dvarven character currently. Of all the clans that are available the dwarves are the most
unified I think and seem to be "mostly" working towards the same goal. I have played arm for a very long time and I remember when I used to be excited about
exploring and getting in a conflict with NPC's because they were scary. After playing for so long the rush for that has gone and I just was going through the
motions. As you are all quite aware, the game grew stagnant and I have lost most of my appeal for it. Now turning hte page on my Mudding experience I am trying
EoE and am back to the days where you get a rush from playing. The staff is incredibly friendly and willing to help and answer questions. Like in ARM, you want something done, you have to put time into it, however, it doesn't take months on end to actually get an outcome. The world changes as you change it, the plots
make sense too not like moving mountains just because. I highly suggest giving it a shot, and if dwarves are not your thing. Try a human, or even elf if your
allowed to.
Sorry I'm beat, but I think I got my point across.
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Post by lurklord on Feb 1, 2015 9:55:31 GMT -5
Can you give me some examples how EoE is a harsh world?
Just wanted to point out that Kaiden's whole lore is literally five surviving nations from what was basically a human holocaust banding together in a hopes to not go extinct.
The Dwarven story is they managed to throw off the shackles of slavery and were promoted to second class citizens as a result of the above.
The slums exist, where people starve, while certain enclaves sit on enough food and money to feed the city several times over.
If that doesn't scream 'harsh world' to you then I don't know what does.
Dwarves are definitely a good place to start if you're intending to get back into it though, as what happens now could potentially change their future forever.
The number isn't static at all. The whole point of dwarves, and the human enclaves to a lesser extent, is that they run the REAL, genuine risk of going extinct.
There's a reason the staff took the time to calculate the exact virtual NPC #. If you played in a nation based clan you'd see it first hand.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 1, 2015 12:20:00 GMT -5
Can you give me some examples how EoE is a harsh world? His question was obviously about what players would experience in-game, not from reading the docs. even the guy del addressd the question to had the decency to answer it directly instead of willfully missng the point as youve done. Youre literally following up an honest and solid response with a bunch of the stupid bullshit youre now known for. And you're rsking discrediting a good rebuttal by associating it wth your worthless response. |
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Post by lurklord on Feb 1, 2015 13:02:31 GMT -5
A bunch of shit about the docs and allegations of a population cap on the dwarvs His question was obviously about what players would experience in-game, not from reading the docs. even the guy del addressd the question to had the decency to answer it directly instead of willfully missng the point as youve done. Youre literally following up an honest and solid response with a bunch of the stupid bullshit youre now known for. And you're rsking discrediting a good rebuttal by associating it wth your worthless response. It'd probably be better for me to ignore you, but I'll take the bait as I need to know, what part of: indicates he'd exclusively meant what you'd experience in-game? |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 1, 2015 13:42:30 GMT -5
His question was obviously about what players would experience in-game, not from reading the docs. even the guy del addressd the question to had the decency to answer it directly instead of willfully missng the point as youve done. Youre literally following up an honest and solid response with a bunch of the stupid bullshit youre now known for. And you're rsking discrediting a good rebuttal by associating it wth your worthless response. It'd probably be better for me to ignore you, but I'll take the bait as I need to know, what part of: indicates he'd exclusively meant what you'd experience in-game? I'm aware that the concpt of "context" is meaningless to you since you attempt to pretend previous posts never happened as you endlessly shift your argument. But Ill give this a shot anyways. The post del responded to was almost entirely about gameplay in EOE. It briefly touched on the setting, then went into gamplay, what they have to offer in-game, and what thy need people to play. No one would read that and then assume dels question was about if EOE's settng was described as harsh in the docs. Seriously, stop playing dumb. Youre not "winning" arguments by shutting them down with obstinate drivel, you're burnng away your any credbility you might have had for being a rational person capabl of remedial-level deduction. |
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Post by lurklord on Feb 1, 2015 13:43:27 GMT -5
Okay. Can you explain where the context would have lead someone to think he'd meant only IC events? Since it's so obvious?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 1, 2015 13:54:06 GMT -5
Okay. Can you explain where the context would have lead someone to think he'd meant only IC events? Since it's so obvious? And so begins the same shit different day. My post, which is still on this page where anyone can read it, was: A bunch of shit about the docs and allegations of a population cap on the dwarvs , not from reading the docs. even the guy del addressd the question to had the decency to answer it directly instead of willfully missng the point as youve done. Youre literally following up an honest and solid response with a bunch of the stupid bullshit youre now known for. And you're rsking discrediting a good rebuttal by associating it wth your worthless response. No one here was talking about "IC events". prod and del (and myself in summary) were talking about everyday risks in-game. Heres a run-down of what everyone readng this thread has seen happen: - Prod did a role call and offered to help people learn to survive and thrve in-game. And he referred to the world ash harsh
- del asked how the game was harsh
- prod listed various in-game threats and people who died to them
- you showed up and rantd about the fucking setting description from the docs
- i pointed this out
- you acted as if del could have been asking about anything
But hey! Youre totally going to win this one because you're whinging about the meaning of a sentence youve taken out of context. |
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Post by lurklord on Feb 1, 2015 14:03:19 GMT -5
Heres a run-down of what everyone readng this thread has seen happen: - Prod did a role call and offered to help people learn to survive and thrve in-game. And he referred to the world ash harsh
- del asked how the game was harsh
- prod listed various in-game threats and people who died to them
- you showed up and rantd about the fucking setting description from the docs
- i pointed this out
- you acted as if del could have been asking about anything
But hey! Youre totally going to win this one because you're whinging about the meaning of a sentence youve taken out of context. These are all the quotes where Prodoman refers to the world as being harsh. Notice how they're all about lore and events passed and not coded, every-day dangers? Then Deleark asks how the world is dangerous. Prodoman gives coded reasons. I gave lore related ones. Then you burst in crying about how I've detailed the topic and how obvious it is Del only wanted coded reasons. I've got better things to do with my sunday. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're trolling and not retarded. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 1, 2015 14:11:10 GMT -5
More selective, out of context quotes. i notice you left out: The game-world is huge. Over 20,000 rooms easily, theres plenty of places to go in any direction. The playerbase isn't big, but it is active. Especially so for the dwarves, currently living in New Kaiden. New Kaiden is the human city, but it was originally the dwarves, before the humans took it. A small number of the dwarves were spared. Less than two hundred remain, in the race total. Humans are over five thousand in number, and I don't know the numbers for the others, Right now, there is six dwarven pcs, four of them active, the other two not so much of lately. You will have experienced players teaching yo on everything you'll need to know to survive and have fun in EoE. There are down times, but things always pick back up. Theres tons of possibilities, and -ANYTHING- is possible with enough roleplay and work. You want a bad-ass sword? Make one. Don't have metal? Find or make a mine. Wanna fly? Build something. Need a house to live in? Build one. Whatever you want, you got it, as long as you put in the effort and roleplay. We need: - Dwarven smiths, crafters, builders, chiselers and such. (Merchant) - Amazing walking death-reapers with whatever big ass weapon you decide to buy or make. - Skilled dwarves in the wilds, outside the walls and into the forest, ensuring the safety of the dwarven kin from afar. - Female dwarves. It's fucked up but true. With less than 200 left in our race, the dwarves have to repopulate. Totally enoucraged to put a virtual dwarven sister, or mother and father in there, just so another 'dwarf couple' somewhere in the fort is having kids. If you contact me and make a character, I'll say right now i'm assuming your interested in playing, and me and the other dwarven pcs will do our damn best to show you a good time, among human and elf ones as well. We'll be training and teaching you how to remain long-lived as shit. We're making a story practically. So! Pm me for details if you are interested. Theres a whole lot going on for the dwarves right now, and you can be a part of that. ... and also... Can you give me some examples how EoE is a harsh world? ... in addition to avoiding answering for lying about what I said in your attmpt to redirect the argument. So how is it youre the only one who reads del's question as being about the docs? Wait, sorry, i already answerd that. You're intentionally missing the point. It's not fooling anyone. And let me give you a helpful pointer: you're not arguing with someone who wants to fuck you. Your worthless arguments and attempts to bullshit your way to silencng your opposition arent going to work. |
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Post by lurklord on Feb 1, 2015 14:16:45 GMT -5
So you've quoted a section where Prodoman states he's going to help newbies survive. To go back to my original question, how does any of this indicate Delerak exclusively meant what you'd experience in-game?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Feb 1, 2015 14:20:56 GMT -5
I've got better things to do with my sunday. No, you don't. Now youre just trying to wear me out by demanding i prove everything while you prove nothing. Or maybe you're just trying to get this thread to the next page so you can assume every previous thing that was said no longr exists. So you've quoted a section where Prodoman states he's going to help newbies survive. To go back to my original question, how does any of this indicate Delerak exclusively meant what you'd experience in-game? Already answered: It'd probably be better for me to ignore you, but I'll take the bait as I need to know, what part of: indicates he'd exclusively meant what you'd experience in-game? I'm aware that the concpt of "context" is meaningless to you since you attempt to pretend previous posts never happened as you endlessly shift your argument. But Ill give this a shot anyways. The post del responded to was almost entirely about gameplay in EOE. It briefly touched on the setting, then went into gamplay, what they have to offer in-game, and what thy need people to play. No one would read that and then assume dels question was about if EOE's settng was described as harsh in the docs. Seriously, stop playing dumb. Youre not "winning" arguments by shutting them down with obstinate drivel, you're burnng away your any credbility you might have had for being a rational person capabl of remedial-level deduction. |
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