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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 1:26:47 GMT -5
Rocs. Do they exist? How hard are they to tame? Where are they found? How dangerous are they, compared to other beasts?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 8:44:04 GMT -5
A Roc could potentially kill/KO you with a single blow. Two if you're lucky. You wont tame it without a lot of roleplay and massive Imm interaction. It is not an ordeal that you can just go and do. It's an ordeal that some characters spent years of effort preparing for.
As far as I know, there are no Roc NPCs per se. Imm load them up for you if you're working on it, or you're wondering around it's nest. But if it's the latter, the loaded Roc will be probably eating you in a second.
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Post by drunkendwarf on Sept 8, 2013 9:47:05 GMT -5
There is a Roc's nest in Mal Krian between the ruined building and the animal pen. There's a place you can climb up about 4 rooms and you will see the nest there. There's never an actual NPC Roc in the nest but I've had one show up in the form of room echoes when we were out there once. The Roc circled overhead and essentially chased us all the way back to Allanak. It was a lot of fun. Of course, that was probably close to ten years ago when the imm's would actually do stuff. Anyway, I'd probably steer clear of Mal Krian if I were you for other reasons right now.
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Post by jjhardy on Sept 8, 2013 18:27:43 GMT -5
What other reasons?
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Post by themountaingoat on Sept 8, 2013 19:01:53 GMT -5
Badasses.
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Post by drunkendwarf on Sept 8, 2013 21:54:00 GMT -5
While I don't give a shit about the staff anymore, I will refrain from saying anything IC about why you should REALLY stay clear of that area out of respect for one involved. Suffice to say - you will almost certainly regret it if you go there. And half-giants are not going to be enough to capture a Roc. You are going to need some serious magicks for a task like that.
And if you don't know where Mal Krian is, you're not ready to be going there.
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Post by nessalin on Sept 8, 2013 23:55:11 GMT -5
I think this thread is illuminating. While several of the posters here have presumably congregated here for the express purpose of cheating, in practice it seems that people are self-censoring out of genuine respect for the other players.
Interestingly enough, draconian censorship measures appear to be somewhat unnecessary.
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Post by topkekm8s on Sept 9, 2013 0:08:40 GMT -5
You keep using the word "cheating", its sort of annoying. Armageddon is not a game of monopoly. The players here aren't secretely stealing from the bank while their friends aren't looking. Its really not the same thing. The things discussed here have already been discussed in closed channels like AIM and IRC for over a decade. Putting this information out in the open is simply leveling the playing field. Armageddon is a roleplaying game. The whole point is roleplaying. However, there are certain walls in place. Whether these walls be volumes of cryptic knowledge, the location of so and so animal, or maybe the best way to go about playing a ranger...its all about overcoming those walls. Are world of warcraft players discussing secrets generally not known to the majority of players on their forums cheating? Is that cheating? No, its not. Thats retarded. Cheating would be...heh heh...hey nessalin...you know that one annoying elf? Zorpnorlax? Yeah..heh heh..he's going to be in the alley in the mages quarter tomorrow evening...alone. Perfect time to kill him...here, let me paypal you $10 bucks to do the job - That would be cheating.
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Post by nessalin on Sept 9, 2013 0:11:43 GMT -5
Thank you for clarifying, and yes, I pretty much agree. I hope you understand I had no wish to offend.
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Post by drunkendwarf on Sept 9, 2013 12:21:40 GMT -5
You keep using the word "cheating", its sort of annoying. Armageddon is not a game of monopoly. The players here aren't secretely stealing from the bank while their friends aren't looking. Its really not the same thing. The things discussed here have already been discussed in closed channels like AIM and IRC for over a decade. Putting this information out in the open is simply leveling the playing field. Armageddon is a roleplaying game. The whole point is roleplaying. However, there are certain walls in place. Whether these walls be volumes of cryptic knowledge, the location of so and so animal, or maybe the best way to go about playing a ranger...its all about overcoming those walls. Are world of warcraft players discussing secrets generally not known to the majority of players on their forums cheating? Is that cheating? No, its not. Thats retarded. Cheating would be...heh heh...hey nessalin...you know that one annoying elf? Zorpnorlax? Yeah..heh heh..he's going to be in the alley in the mages quarter tomorrow evening...alone. Perfect time to kill him...here, let me paypal you $10 bucks to do the job - That would be cheating. Meh, I'd have to disagree. Gaining access to knowledge you're not supposed to know without finding out for yourself really IS cheating. And it really depends on the game...in WoW, it's built more that these secrets really aren't supposed to be kept by the players that know them. Armageddon is different in that there is this expectation that, once you've learned something like the words to a spell, you're really supposed to keep that knowledge to yourself. There's an inherent difference between WoW and Armageddon: Roleplaying. In Armageddon, even receiving a map really is cheating - your character shouldn't know dick about most areas of the world, aside from vague whispers and blurred stories. You're receiving, and acting, on OOC knowledge that your character simply doesn't know. And while yes, this stuff has been spread out via AIM and other means for years, that doesn't make it any less cheating. In the overall spirit of the game, you are cheating if you're accepting a lot of the spell lists, etc that are being doled out. Now as to whether or not I give a fuck anymore is a different story.
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Post by dessertman on Sept 9, 2013 17:30:00 GMT -5
When it comes to code concerns, sometimes it is more fun to figure it out on your own. Sometimes it's frustrating as all hell to find out you needed a knobby piece of fuckwood instead of a knotted piece of fuckwood to make that awesome spear. I don't mind sharing code related knowledge to an extent, but when it comes to ongoing plots carried out by other players, especially those that have been working on these plots for several RL months...
you'd probably be pissed off if someone gave away your secret hideout and suddenly a bunch of random people showed up trying to screw with you.
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Post by blasphemy on Sept 9, 2013 17:53:18 GMT -5
It really depends on what you mean by "cheating".
By dispersing hidden material for all to view, you potentially level the so-called playing field making it an equal game for all, though there will be those (myself included) who prefer to discover new things about the game -in game- instead of viewing some document.
If by cheating you mean breaking the rules of the game.. well, as of this posting, there isn't a rule that says sharing information about the game is against the rules. The closest thing is the help file in the OOC command which states that it is in bad taste to convey IC information through it, and to take comments to a more appropriate forum.
The spirit of the game implies that hidden information should remain hidden, even if the letter of the game doesn't demand as such.
I suggest that you, dear reader, should find someone and play the card game Mao with them. It's similar to Armageddon in the sense that you get to play without knowing the rules, but when you begin to learn them new ones are introduced. You win bonus points if you don't look up how to play it first.
Personally, I prefer to play Mao knowing the rules.
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Post by topkekm8s on Sept 9, 2013 18:18:04 GMT -5
nevermind
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Post by jjhardy on Sept 10, 2013 20:29:00 GMT -5
Here's the funny thing about the plotlines and what not worked on for months, players a-F, meaning imms and their friends are enjoying the shit out of it, while the playerbase, G-Z who actually make the game into what it is are caught on the sidelines and stroking their cocks with nothing to do but be bit players. Then players A-F do a kudos to each other for a job well done.
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Post by topkekm8s on Sept 10, 2013 22:07:21 GMT -5
Here's the funny thing about the plotlines and what not worked on for months, players a-F, meaning imms and their friends are enjoying the shit out of it, while the playerbase, G-Z who actually make the game into what it is are caught on the sidelines and stroking their cocks with nothing to do but be bit players. Then players A-F do a kudos to each other for a job well done. I've seen this. Its disheartening.
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