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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 16:09:08 GMT -5
My suggested fix to the skillgain system is to make it work like Two-Handing. When making an attack with two hands, you roll against your skill to see if you get a "fast attack". If you roll above your skill level, it's considered a fail. You then have a 1 in 25 chance of skilling up. This is probably modified by /something/. The idea is simple: Do this with every skill, or at the very least all the combat/weapon skills, and modify the chance to get a skillgain by the character's Learning Substat. This is meant to augment the current system, not replace. This allows people who have insane offensive abilities to get skill ups without resorting to insanity like weighing yourself down with rocks. I'll bite. What would a faster skill growth system do for you?
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 21, 2020 17:31:49 GMT -5
I'll bite. What would a faster skill growth system do for you? Allow me to skill up faster and not need to worry about going out of my way to get those fails in. I'm responding to one of Pink's stated dislikes about the system. And in all fairness, it's pretty archaic. I don't know any other games that work like that. Usually, just using a skill is how you train it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 19:33:01 GMT -5
I'll bite. What would a faster skill growth system do for you? Allow me to skill up faster and not need to worry about going out of my way to get those fails in. I'm responding to one of Pink's stated dislikes about the system. And in all fairness, it's pretty archaic. I don't know any other games that work like that. Usually, just using a skill is how you train it. Respectfully, this misses the point.
Is your character too weak to be involved in story? To avoid accidental deaths? To fulfill a power fantasy?
To see more of the map?
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 21, 2020 19:35:39 GMT -5
Allow me to skill up faster and not need to worry about going out of my way to get those fails in. I'm responding to one of Pink's stated dislikes about the system. And in all fairness, it's pretty archaic. I don't know any other games that work like that. Usually, just using a skill is how you train it. Respectfully, this misses the point.
Is your character too weak to be involved in story? To avoid accidental deaths? To fulfill a power fantasy?
To see more of the map?
I'm of the idea that if I should benefit from it, than everyone else should... I don't know how else to explain it. I'm pretty sure this is what you're getting at.
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pinkerdlu
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Post by pinkerdlu on Apr 21, 2020 20:30:24 GMT -5
I kinda want to hear what you think the biggest problems with Arm/Apoc are, Pink. If it's Backstab/Sap, I could make a thread on it. Seems like a potentially easy-ish problem to solve. I think every post after this one could likely be moved to a different thread.
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 21, 2020 20:52:14 GMT -5
I kinda want to hear what you think the biggest problems with Arm/Apoc are, Pink. If it's Backstab/Sap, I could make a thread on it. Seems like a potentially easy-ish problem to solve. I think every post after this one could likely be moved to a different thread. I think you're right.
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Post by leowhyn on Apr 22, 2020 5:42:27 GMT -5
Getting back to apoc and my experience with it, has been awesome, been playing for four days now (not time played) Already lost my first PC And it was epic. those anakora pits are done well, IDK if the staff animated my experience or what, but this is how it goes down, fall into room inix falls besides me. no anakora to be seen.
My PC think well fuck I am dead, might as well play this out.
The anakora attacks my mount, I rush in at the anakora and after a long ass fight I manage to put the first one down, after a bit the ground rumbles and number two pops out. It goes for my mount once again and downs it and my PC, eventually.
Good shit.
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 22, 2020 9:43:40 GMT -5
Getting back to apoc and my experience with it, has been awesome, been playing for four days now (not time played) Already lost my first PC And it was epic. those anakora pits are done well, IDK if the staff animated my experience or what, but this is how it goes down, fall into room inix falls besides me. no anakora to be seen. My PC think well fuck I am dead, might as well play this out. The anakora attacks my mount, I rush in at the anakora and after a long ass fight I manage to put the first one down, after a bit the ground rumbles and number two pops out. It goes for my mount once again and downs it and my PC, eventually. Good shit. I never go into an Anakore Pit alone if I can help it. Two/Three people in a pit, if they know what they're doing, can come back with a set of skulls.
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Post by nile on Apr 23, 2020 3:09:01 GMT -5
Nile, please stop. You're not doing yourself any favors. And by extension your potentially kneecapping the people who enjoy Apoc by painting a bad picture of it's playerbase. Pinkerdlu, you and I agree on a lot of the same points. I think I like you. Right now, the biggest issue with Apoc is, as Pinkerdlu said is overpowered NPCs. A single Gith should not be leagues harder to solo than a wild inix or carru. Mate, this bloke outed my account name/discord/and PCs because of a delusion in his head I masterminded all of these guest posts because I said 'rofl i can't help but agree' in response to one. I'm right to question him because it's a stupid accusation and a typical method for someone who can't actually defend their position: poisoning the well by posting unrelated stuff from a chatroom where I do talk much more how I do irl, since it is hardly the context for proper debate.
If the guy wanted to try and have a reasonable discussion he could have, but he instead chose to try and do some weird character assassination when I called him on his blatant lying and bullshit.
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Post by nile on Apr 23, 2020 3:10:35 GMT -5
Right now, the biggest issue with Apoc is, as Pinkerdlu said is overpowered NPCs. A single Gith should not be leagues harder to solo than a wild inix or carru. I think the existence of this forum is an indictment. You made a forum for another MUD in a place where people come to complain. It's just not a good idea. Just look at the bitch fest this thread created. You even got people posting IG/OOC shit about indiviuals unmoderated.
And I strongly disagree about gith. The random rolls are the killer.
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nile
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Post by nile on Apr 23, 2020 3:14:23 GMT -5
Old mate 0 erdluis mad about something or in a bad place irl or some shit. You don't see rants that big very often.
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vex
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Post by vex on Apr 23, 2020 4:05:08 GMT -5
I mean, you're three posts in on this, now is the time to call him a pedo cunt.
It's kind of your thing, and I'll be thoroughly disappointed, if you don't live up to my internet expectations.
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 23, 2020 17:31:33 GMT -5
I mean, you're three posts in on this, now is the time to call him a pedo cunt. It's kind of your thing, and I'll be thoroughly disappointed, if you don't live up to my internet expectations. At the very least he could put all the fucking responses into a single post like a normal person.
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 24, 2020 16:47:03 GMT -5
Having seen this play out so many times (both observing and being on the receiving end), I think I can safely say that Stun Damage, Sap and Backstab could use some work to make them less ungodly powerful.
I have seen Assassins use those skills to destroy creatures that well trained warriors would have trouble fighting off. Assassins really should not be outright better at killing things than Warriors are.
I think Backstab could be better worked to be like the D&D 3.5 version (called "Sneak Attack") where you needed to be hidden or flanking your target in order to get those bonuses. That, or make it a skill that rolls against target's defense. Success means you do some extra damage with your next attack.
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Post by psyxypher on Apr 25, 2020 12:11:55 GMT -5
For all the shit that people have given the Zafir Nez, I can safely say the Ebon Claw are worse, for the sole reason that RP-wise, they're the "Rulers" of the Elven Nation.
I once had my Tribal Elder animated and threatening to incinerate me for disrespecting an Ebon Claw PC. Said 'disrespect' was me expressing concern for him, because he was wandering around erratically (there was a lot if Mindworm shit around at the time). He took it the wrong way. OOCly, it was pretty easy to tell that he was a new PC.
To that PC's credit, he did apologize for it later on. However, creating an entire /coded/ clan with the power to push around 'lesser' characters seemingly without any consequence is a terrible idea.
At least the Nez didn't go out of their way to fuck over other Elves.
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