This whole thread is just detrimental, when there are official channels maintained by the staff. Why should they need to check multiple places? Their time is donated after all, and this thread is just a undermining them making any progress with any of the issues brought forth here. They have a ticket system they use to manage anything that would be brought up here. Why not just use that? This whole threads existence is for whining so why bash it being used that way? Why not just let ACTUAL players of APOC determine through the proper system what the issues are directing the staff and not beat around this thread?
Not even through reading this hilarious thread yet. So far this thread has produced individual discord/account/PCs as a form of attack. people constantly talking things out in a medium the staff aren't even going to bother with instead of an official channel, logical fallacies as a means of critique (fucking lol), regular violations of ic/ooc shit that was all ENTIRELY SOLVED through IG methods and motivations only, and a never-ending stream of complaints. It's good to know who these people are, at the very least. Got ppl who don't or hardly even play the game doing a lot of the trash talk. It all seems a bit absurd and pointless now. But I totally get why this thread is open; it's entertaining
The internet is serious business for some, but for others it's a game. We need the latter sort. Perma-death games will always lead to people getting upset, but it's only when this is a frequent issue that it becomes problematic. Like this erdlu dude, still going on about stuff that happened months ago after they goofed ig (i laugh thinking how they'd behave if they didn't fail miserably). That shit is genuinely strange
Also, did that psy guy suggest I stop posting to call out blatant lies against my person? Maybe have a friend over and show them this thread, see what they think. I regularly show my friends (irl not online) all this scandalous internet drama cuz it's funny. Might do you good.
1. Donating time = Volunteers = Not a defense or counter or relevant. 2. Policing where something is discussed = Not an achievable policy = Not a problem if you just don't read it and/or address concerns making the discussion redundant or obsolete. 3. You're not playing you can't have an opinion = People don't play politics or sports and they have opinions
Why are you trotting out rephrased ArmageddonMUD excuses on a board that formed -because- of those excuses. That's like anti-promoting the playerbase and staff of the game. I literally don't even follow the game even a teeny bit and I'm like well that's a bad sign.
3. You're not playing you can't have an opinion = People don't play politics or sports and they have opinions
This needs to be picked apart a little. Of course anyone can have an opinion on anything, but it's a false equivalency to give the same weight to opinions from a guy who played a PC in the first few weeks (erdlu is a fantastic example of someone failing brilliantly in game then logging out near-perma and proceeding to bitch where he thinks ppl care) to one who has been consistently at it. The latter holds far more weight given they have more experience and are unlikely to have some axe to grind over an internet slight.
btw: not posting erdlu's char details etc like he did to me since i realise nobody gives a fuck. lol. god damn pedos.
Staff are quite happy with things as they are. We were bound to get a few wildcards given the ppl in this forum, but they seem to have been weeded out. Now it's just building. And it seems like it is going in quite a different direction to Arm. Just be ready for a slow burn at times.
PMs and a group chat are two different things. As it is a lot of this discussion could have been done on the Apocalypse discussion board so staff could see it and make changes or answer any questions. Also Psy plz use Tell. Its a very distinguishing feature you do so we all know it's you.
It probably helps that there are only 3 or 4 players on at a time. Makes it a lot easier to bully the kid that you don't like.
Staff have obviously seen and read this thread. Along with the handful of Apocalypse players who keep coming over and making dummy accounts to contribute to this very thread.
I don't see any questions posed in this thread, but if there were, staff are welcome to post on this forum and address them unless Jcarter made some secret rule that we haven't been informed about! This thread was mostly about observations on the game that people were open to discussing until it devolved (multiple times).
Hardly need dummy accounts. I'll post in this thread when I got time for the shits and giggles. I mean, the guy before spoke of cognitive dissonance and you acknowledged your basis for saying I coordinated a string of pro-Apoc posts was bullshit while also admitting that changed your mind about nothing.
We're still in COVID restrictions so this is fun sport on the side. I usually debate politics but finding fallacies etc is good fun in general.
So. With JCarter having no problem with Erdlu's alleged dummy accounts, let the games continue!
So. With JCarter having no problem with Erdlu's alleged dummy accounts, let the games continue!
if you want me to investigate if someone has multiple accounts you can PM me, tag me, or do something more besides passive aggressively cry in a thread and put words in my mouth.
Erdlu alleged that in this thread, not me. Apparently he didn't go to you about it so, as I thought, it seems more like a half-baked attempt to poison the well.
And apologies if you think I put words in your mouth or was being passive aggressive. It seemed reasonable you would have read this thread and didn't comment when I raised whether it's appropriate or not for the sharing of others' account names/handles/PCs, so it implied you didn't mind. Irrelevant anyway. Run your forum how you like. But don't think I was taking some random swipe at you.
I now have an impression of Apoc's players and the gameplay there that is infinity worse than what I had yesterday.
A very sane superficial reaction, tbh. It's like looking at reddit for Armageddon. Most ppl in this thread don't even play the game or tried, failed something or weren't given a present by the staff and left out of spite. This is a thread for lolz.
Besides, don't forget context, taking a thread about a MUD from a forum from a completely different MUD that is purely for complaining is jumping the gun big time. Check the context of this forum. This is all very natural. I've also happy to keep driving this thread into the ground. lol. BY the time the game is released this won't matter and the apoc staff will have gotten rid of a toxic demographic. But if you think a thread for apoc on a forum for armageddon is representative you are very likely going to have skewed understandings/expectations.
btw since it doesn't matter pinkerdlu was leon. the up himself Deti wannabe f-me faggot who tried to kill a player-built clan and failed brilliantly. then had his entire group turn on him and side against him. he then quit out to die from shame.
ppurg pallbearer: challenge: read the board in the Gaj and find me one post that wasn't written with a 5th grade reading level or a stupid accent gimmick. Reward is 0.000415 bitcoin.
May 8, 2020 2:27:06 GMT -5
lechuck: most players who can string a sentence together have left for games where such a skill is actually recognized as an asset
May 8, 2020 10:20:26 GMT -5
mehtastic: The amount of Armageddon refugees I've run into on MUSHes is staggering. You can tell because it takes them 5 minutes to write "pose nods" around players who are belting out a paragraph every 2 minutes, then you ask them OOC and yep, they fled Arm.
May 9, 2020 6:50:45 GMT -5
mehtastic: The desert sun broke their brains
May 9, 2020 6:51:13 GMT -5
mehtastic: On the flipside, I've seen a few former Armers in places like Arx and After Earth (which is an RPI) who are definitely there because Armageddon's quality dipped in the past 5 or so years. They usually reference Tuluk's closue as the reason why they left
May 9, 2020 6:56:55 GMT -5
MartenBroadcloak: lol, what a bunch of fuckkin neckers.
May 10, 2020 3:07:37 GMT -5
MartenBroadcloak: i dont always want to make sure im not the biggest piece of shit troll alive but when i do... i visit these forums for humbling
May 10, 2020 3:09:59 GMT -5
nile: the only apoc drama be on an arm drama website. lol
May 16, 2020 20:30:49 GMT -5
nile: almost guarantee arm staff are LOVING this. hahaha. long as the game is good fun it's all a bit irrelevant. but the anti-arm crew giving the arm staff some sense of schadenfreude based purely a forum for whining made me lol
May 16, 2020 20:32:52 GMT -5
nile: Also, been playing Arm again on an alt account (omfg their ban was easy to get around...and tbh i have more fun in apoc)
May 16, 2020 20:34:00 GMT -5
vex: Bans are irrelevant, and pointlessly antagonistic. The only game I play, where staff address problems with aggression, bans, and down talk, is Arm. The rest have realized, all that results in, is a bitter player, more inclined towards "revenge" play.
May 19, 2020 19:20:02 GMT -5
vex: Better to incentivize ideal play and behavior, than try and fail to intimidate and leverage empty threats, because nobody is intimidated by an angry elf fetishist on the internet, and there are virtually no threats a player can't circumvent, easily.
May 19, 2020 19:23:36 GMT -5
baobob: Arm turned to condemnation, punishment and vengeful retribution against players pretty hard long, long ago. Never turned back.
May 22, 2020 20:17:04 GMT -5