My man, I can tell you from a player's perspective that I've seen two other groups moving forward now with the same sort of plans and making good progress at achieving them. That's just from a player's perspective bumping up against them in various situations.
I won't go into specifics because I don't want to be outed and I certainly don't want asshats rushing over to destroy what they're doing, but you can see that there's actual progress with them having plans, staff animating NPC's to tell them what they have to do to achieve those plans, and then them working towards those steps. If the rug gets yanked out from under them when they accomplish those steps, or if the goalposts get moved ... then there's a legitimate complaint to be made about staff. But I'm seeing some progress.
I have to work on my own gameplay before I can ever expect any of my own plans to start to get staff attention. Nobody is going to waste time on me yet. But some of these long-lived dudes are getting somewhere, and more power to them.
Because there were other players who tried to build what Crimson Wind built and staff ignored them, while when CW did it, they got what they wanted. Therefore staff can eat a bag of dicks for playing favorites. That's the general topic that we're discussing and one I was challenging, Jeshin. My arguments to these premises were numerous, but one of them was, "Name other groups like CW who tried and failed." So far, I'm seeing loner players who wondered around and PKed, a group that did indeed also get staff support eventually, after a long time of existence, much like CW, and an already coded and staffed delf tribe who already have headquarters and got plenty of staff support to the plots that they did ran.
This was when Nyr was still imm about four years ago, but desertman (playing Koman Locke), myself, Armali, and other Bynners were trying to splinter away from the Byn and form a separate group. We got brickwalled, and then the staff threw a clan-wipe RPT at us.
At the time, the shadowboards were just getting ramped up, and I feel like lots of people posting here were in the Byn at the time... so, they did not hesitate to just obliterate a big part of the Byn, many of them newbie chars.
Shortly thereafter, maybe a couple of months, the docs for forming a clan were written up, and Locke eventually was able to get some stuff done, albeit without the Byn merchant PC/Aggressor Harrar (me), which would have been a lot cooller. I stopped playing because I felt like I was letting other players down (like Albie, Locke) by not being able to get something as simple as a desert-colored mastercraft (1st mastercraft of a 40-day merchant at the time) cloak approved. It was disheartening and I mostly blamed Nyr.
So, yeah, I still had all my karma at the time I believe, but, still, felt totally brickwalled when it came to even getting a warehouse when no-one else was evening using them.
This was four years ago, so hopefully things have changed.
qwerty: and if someone is unexplainably hostile to you for no good reason. Chalk it off to being an asshole and slit their throat
Sept 5, 2019 12:41:42 GMT -5
qwerty: All in all, in my observation. OOC relativity comes about cliques, then hostility. As in, players might not care if you offed their previous character. But they might like and include another PC whom they talk to more often ooc.
Sept 5, 2019 12:42:44 GMT -5
qwerty: But again. You cant control it. Cant prove it. The nagging suspicion will ruin your gameplay. I just try not to worry about it and react to the gameworld events as if there is no ooc influence. Doing anything else makes for a really shitty experience
Sept 5, 2019 13:01:26 GMT -5
qwerty: You cant stop people from talking ooc. And if people talk ooc, it's bound to happen that they cooperate ooc. Or ... or not. But you wont know and therefore, you'll suspect. And this suspicion will kill the game for you.
Sept 5, 2019 17:46:21 GMT -5
qwerty: 4/5 times someone rages against staff, staff had nothing to do with it. It's just number one suspicion people go to.
Sept 5, 2019 17:47:19 GMT -5
mehtastic: Ignorance is bliss.
Sept 5, 2019 17:50:44 GMT -5
delerak: I recently accused staff of some nonsense. They showed me the log and I felt embarrassed. It's hard to shake the paranoia of days gone by when you were slayed by staff for going afk and using a script to forage wood.
Sept 5, 2019 18:32:02 GMT -5
jkarr: look east. near: agafari forest. far: agafari forest. very far: the ghost of halaster is here grinning evilly
Sept 5, 2019 22:30:43 GMT -5
mehtastic: I posted it on the Discord server a long time ago, but unfortunately I don't use Discord much anymore. If you can get a Discord invite you can get the code, probably.
Sept 26, 2019 19:33:50 GMT -5
qwerty: ask jcarter. I think he's giving it away
Sept 27, 2019 17:34:42 GMT -5
mehtastic: I am back on Discord. If you want a copy of the code dump, join the shadowboard Discord and ask, or DM me: meh#0490. Feel free to DM if you feel addicted to Armageddon and want help detaching yourself from it, too.
Oct 10, 2019 9:01:42 GMT -5