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Post by lyse on Jul 9, 2018 12:10:31 GMT -5
He’s not really going to be able to prove the other player was a staff alt or got a boost. The best he can do is actually post logs of the guy in combat, actually doing impossible stuff. Why would staff let him know that they’re doing something shady?
So Battlebeard, do you have logs of this guy in action? That would go a long way in supporting your claim.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 13:46:01 GMT -5
The only log that would actually hold weight Lyse - would be them performing some bonker damage, but I don't actively log and I didn't care enough to sit there and log their every encounter. Showing logs of the suspected staff alt and him simply fighting all of those PC's wouldn't show much, or prove much beyond these PC's you know nothing about lost to the suspected staff alt. And as much as ripvanwinkle may like to believe, I'm not a patheological liar. I don't think I'd forge such a trivial white lie.
At the end of the day, it's really not hard to consider that a brand new warrior-based class probably isn't capable of stomping on maxed warriors/near maxed warriors without staff involvement.
Maybe salty ripvanwrinkle above is right. Maybe I'm just a patheological liar who does this for my own enjoyment and to piss people just like them off, as they've really taken time out of their day to bitch and moan and groan and suck staffs dick. As for your hypocrisy, the fact you come here onto this thread and call bananas, but you're crying over on Soi about the same damn thing almost.
Either way it's a game I've quit playing, and am banned from for sharing the staff alts sdesc anyways - and couldn't care less.
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Post by mehtastic on Jul 9, 2018 14:16:43 GMT -5
Reading this thread raises only one question in my mind.
If you take a staffer's cumload into your mouth and swallow deeply, then shit it out into a post in this thread that is supportive of the former owner of that staffer's wad (likely Shalooonsh), how much extra karma do you get?
Seriously though, the blind sycophancy reminds me of the GDB.
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Post by sergeantraul on Jul 9, 2018 23:22:51 GMT -5
Reading this thread raises only one question in my mind. If you take a staffer's cumload into your mouth and swallow deeply, then shit it out into a post in this thread that is supportive of the former owner of that staffer's wad (likely Shalooonsh), how much extra karma do you get? Seriously though, the blind sycophancy reminds me of the GDB. Good to know I can make up any story I want about the game and as long as it makes the staff look bad, you'll believe me.
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Post by faroukel on Jul 10, 2018 8:44:53 GMT -5
I don't actively log and I didn't care enough to sit there and log their every encounter.
Haha, I do, sometimes. Anyone wanna see BB hypershit their guts out on the floor over someone being a coded rank above them? Or when he attacked a linkdead pc sitting at a table over a helm? Or when I left Discord on overnight and came back to like 100 messages trying to convince me your some ultra sexy yet repressed blond haired light skinned black male? WTF was that all about anyways, I thought my anti-gay aura was strong.
You obviously care guy, or you wouldn't be posting shit from like 70 days ago.
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Post by faroukel on Jul 10, 2018 8:52:21 GMT -5
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Post by ripvanwrinkle on Jul 10, 2018 11:29:18 GMT -5
Reading this thread raises only one question in my mind. If you take a staffer's cumload into your mouth and swallow deeply, then shit it out into a post in this thread that is supportive of the former owner of that staffer's wad (likely Shalooonsh), how much extra karma do you get? Seriously though, the blind sycophancy reminds me of the GDB. What really made this perfect was your signature. "Pride will be your destruction." To answer your question though - it's zero. I think the only blind sycophancy that happens in these forums are people constantly assuming the absolute worst of staff in any possible circumstance. This thread being a perfect example of it. Staff do make mistakes. Staff do stupid things. Staff make stupid decisions. But not all the time. I have been subject to some pretty retarded shit because of staff in both Armageddon and other games. But I've also seen some really good and thoughtful decision making and actions. I'm not one to just suddenly join a bandwagon and say, "Yep yep that's totally staff's fault. Yep. No possible way the player could be at fault here, yep. Customer is always right. Mhm." Seriously, its really irksome that you take someone who is playing devil's advocate in a fairly reasonable situation and turn to them and say, "Keep swallowing those cumloads staffer's pet." Like... what? Do you not even see how that's really unacceptable behavior in any circumstance? Do you argue with everyone like that? The moment that you have any potential to be wrong, do you start throwing insults at people? Like, let's take a play from pinkerdlu's playbook for a moment. Your post is so all over the place, and I think you know this, that I don't know where to start to respond. I will just say I played Arm from 2004 to early 2017-ish, and that I am not angry at anyone currently or formerly associated with Armageddon in particular, just sick of the deception that takes place on all levels of the community in general. Yes, I know not everyone is responsible for it. I know people who are current or former members of Armageddon staff and talk to them on a regular basis. They're jaded. I don't blame them for being jaded. They have a unique perspective on where Armageddon went wrong, and where the community surrounding the game went wrong. I just paint with a broad brush because I can't be bothered to spend more than a few minutes per day thinking and writing about how bad Armageddon has gotten. Like I said, it's a lost cause. Like lyse said, the problems with Armageddon run so deeply that it's impossible to fix without knocking the whole thing down and starting over, something that will never happen. In this post that's not even a month old you claim that you can't be bothered to spend more than a few minutes per day thinking and writing about how bad Armageddon has gotten, yet you participate in a forum that regularly trashes the game and staff in a variety of ways. You also clearly mention how not everyone is responsible for the game's current state, how people have become jaded over it, and where the community surrounding the game went wrong. So having dredged this out of the water, let me ask you this - Is it not entirely possible that you're just as jaded and just as spiteful as anyone else could be? Or are you really painting with such a broad brush because you're too immature to think about things as critically as you like to try and sound? Anyways, my point is that for someone who really can't spend "more than a few minutes per day" thinking about this crap - you sure as hell have a lot to say about it all. Especially when it comes to people who are just trying to take things seriously and not with the broad face of a shovel smacked repeatedly against their face. The only thing I have ever done in this thread is point out the inconsistencies in the OP's accusations and the porous consistency of his arguments. Jokingly, at first - to be sure. But it seriously is a problem that people are so readily available to believe any negative thing that someone brings to this forum about Armageddon. How can you make a constructive argument when everything you ever bring to the table is negative and unverified? People have legitimate grievances against the game and against the staff. But those issues that are actually legitimate get lost in this never-ending tide of negative publicity that isn't entirely substantiated or backed up by meaningful evidence. Think of it like this, right? You have a ceiling and its pouring rain... but instead of fixing the leaks and where they really are, someone keeps telling you that the problem is over here. So you take up a 2x4, nail it in, and look! The roof is still leaking because a problem that wasn't even there to begin with got a patch when it wasn't necessary. Luckily, you have a lot of 2x4's so you just keep trying to fix all of these problems as they come to you. By the end of it, you have a roof that looks like this. Part of the reason why no one takes this board seriously anymore outside of the conclave itself is largely due to the fact that the people here are so willing to believe whatever they're told about the game and whats going on in it as long as it's negative. Whoever says otherwise about that fact is a staff puppet, posting on the board to insert propaganda. Man, I haven't played Armageddon in forever. Sirra can tell you all about the PMs I had with him discussing rangers when I first started playing, and I didn't last long after that because I thought the game as a whole was pretty fucking boring to begin with. Not a staff alt, not some cumslut, really just a dude that is tired of all of the overwhelming negative feedback over things that are -- like I said earlier -- people attempting to get sympathy tokens to feel validated that they were somehow wronged, when in reality - they were probably just being an asshole. To everyone that was legitimately wronged, I'm sorry that happened and I hope that you feel better eventually. But man, sitting here constantly soaking in negativity ain't gonna help make things better. Especially when that negativity might be bullshit to start with. Edit:You know, it occurred to me that the best things end with tidings of their beginnings. So I'mma just leave this here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 17:08:23 GMT -5
I don't actively log and I didn't care enough to sit there and log their every encounter.
Haha, I do, sometimes. Anyone wanna see BB hypershit their guts out on the floor over someone being a coded rank above them? Or when he attacked a linkdead pc sitting at a table over a helm? Or when I left Discord on overnight and came back to like 100 messages trying to convince me your some ultra sexy yet repressed blond haired light skinned black male? WTF was that all about anyways, I thought my anti-gay aura was strong.
You obviously care guy, or you wouldn't be posting shit from like 70 days ago.
You're right. I *did* try to kill a linkdead on Soi, with my long-lived PC at the time. You, however forgot to mention why. I'll do it for you. Since you were obviously ooc'lly communicating with the guy at the time, then you already know he had a track history of logging on randomly, sparring with no RP, and then going link dead. But you only recently returned to orc sphere, so how would you? No..no you couldn't have witnessed the at least, easily half a dozen times I would log on to find this guy either KO'd and linkdead, or having KO'd the sparring npc and was linkdead. All he ever did was log on, and literally afk spar. So when, after a RL year of trying to get the orc leader to return, he does return for a single RP session, between 1-2 other pcs, one of them being the linkdead guy, who after being promoted 2 ranks once again just afk'd for hours on end, yeah, I absolutely did finally take judgement into my own hands. Guilty as charged. Shitty thing to do, sure. But not so shitty since all they /ever/ did, was log on and AFK spar/KO npcs. Literally. I'm glad you're so salty though, guy, to care about this. You wouldn't know that there was on going discussion on the discord as to what convinced me to even post this anyways. Or the month that people asked me to post the interactions with staff and I just didn't care. I know, because if you were on the shadowboards discord, I'd be able to message you rn. And I am a good looking young man, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 17:09:33 GMT -5
Reading this thread raises only one question in my mind. If you take a staffer's cumload into your mouth and swallow deeply, then shit it out into a post in this thread that is supportive of the former owner of that staffer's wad (likely Shalooonsh), how much extra karma do you get? Seriously though, the blind sycophancy reminds me of the GDB. What really made this perfect was your signature. "Pride will be your destruction." To answer your question though - it's zero. I think the only blind sycophancy that happens in these forums are people constantly assuming the absolute worst of staff in any possible circumstance. This thread being a perfect example of it. Staff do make mistakes. Staff do stupid things. Staff make stupid decisions. But not all the time. I have been subject to some pretty retarded shit because of staff in both Armageddon and other games. But I've also seen some really good and thoughtful decision making and actions. I'm not one to just suddenly join a bandwagon and say, "Yep yep that's totally staff's fault. Yep. No possible way the player could be at fault here, yep. Customer is always right. Mhm." Seriously, its really irksome that you take someone who is playing devil's advocate in a fairly reasonable situation and turn to them and say, "Keep swallowing those cumloads staffer's pet." Like... what? Do you not even see how that's really unacceptable behavior in any circumstance? Do you argue with everyone like that? The moment that you have any potential to be wrong, do you start throwing insults at people? Like, let's take a play from pinkerdlu's playbook for a moment. Your post is so all over the place, and I think you know this, that I don't know where to start to respond. I will just say I played Arm from 2004 to early 2017-ish, and that I am not angry at anyone currently or formerly associated with Armageddon in particular, just sick of the deception that takes place on all levels of the community in general. Yes, I know not everyone is responsible for it. I know people who are current or former members of Armageddon staff and talk to them on a regular basis. They're jaded. I don't blame them for being jaded. They have a unique perspective on where Armageddon went wrong, and where the community surrounding the game went wrong. I just paint with a broad brush because I can't be bothered to spend more than a few minutes per day thinking and writing about how bad Armageddon has gotten. Like I said, it's a lost cause. Like lyse said, the problems with Armageddon run so deeply that it's impossible to fix without knocking the whole thing down and starting over, something that will never happen. In this post that's not even a month old you claim that you can't be bothered to spend more than a few minutes per day thinking and writing about how bad Armageddon has gotten, yet you participate in a forum that regularly trashes the game and staff in a variety of ways. You also clearly mention how not everyone is responsible for the game's current state, how people have become jaded over it, and where the community surrounding the game went wrong. So having dredged this out of the water, let me ask you this - Is it not entirely possible that you're just as jaded and just as spiteful as anyone else could be? Or are you really painting with such a broad brush because you're too immature to think about things as critically as you like to try and sound? Anyways, my point is that for someone who really can't spend "more than a few minutes per day" thinking about this crap - you sure as hell have a lot to say about it all. Especially when it comes to people who are just trying to take things seriously and not with the broad face of a shovel smacked repeatedly against their face. The only thing I have ever done in this thread is point out the inconsistencies in the OP's accusations and the porous consistency of his arguments. Jokingly, at first - to be sure. But it seriously is a problem that people are so readily available to believe any negative thing that someone brings to this forum about Armageddon. How can you make a constructive argument when everything you ever bring to the table is negative and unverified? People have legitimate grievances against the game and against the staff. But those issues that are actually legitimate get lost in this never-ending tide of negative publicity that isn't entirely substantiated or backed up by meaningful evidence. Think of it like this, right? You have a ceiling and its pouring rain... but instead of fixing the leaks and where they really are, someone keeps telling you that the problem is over here. So you take up a 2x4, nail it in, and look! The roof is still leaking because a problem that wasn't even there to begin with got a patch when it wasn't necessary. Luckily, you have a lot of 2x4's so you just keep trying to fix all of these problems as they come to you. By the end of it, you have a roof that looks like this. Part of the reason why no one takes this board seriously anymore outside of the conclave itself is largely due to the fact that the people here are so willing to believe whatever they're told about the game and whats going on in it as long as it's negative. Whoever says otherwise about that fact is a staff puppet, posting on the board to insert propaganda. Man, I haven't played Armageddon in forever. Sirra can tell you all about the PMs I had with him discussing rangers when I first started playing, and I didn't last long after that because I thought the game as a whole was pretty fucking boring to begin with. Not a staff alt, not some cumslut, really just a dude that is tired of all of the overwhelming negative feedback over things that are -- like I said earlier -- people attempting to get sympathy tokens to feel validated that they were somehow wronged, when in reality - they were probably just being an asshole. To everyone that was legitimately wronged, I'm sorry that happened and I hope that you feel better eventually. But man, sitting here constantly soaking in negativity ain't gonna help make things better. Especially when that negativity might be bullshit to start with. Edit:You know, it occurred to me that the best things end with tidings of their beginnings. So I'mma just leave this here. To you, who spend this time writing a page, and remulling it over to edit and repost your original staff alt post that got your hypocritical ass busted on Soi, I'm just going to laugh at you. Have a nice day. And no. I didn't read all this. Your ass sucks wind.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 17:11:54 GMT -5
Don't. It's full of ooc-cliques, and staff favoritism. Don't believe me? Ask the good 20+ people who quit in the past few years.
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Post by ripvanwrinkle on Jul 10, 2018 17:29:17 GMT -5
@battlebeard Thank you for proving my point. Not only did you not read my post and fall right into it's trap (which wasn't even set for you), but you can't even quote it and add your own message properly. Also, I didn't mull over it - just tacked that last bit on after a "Hahaha, that would be hilarious" thought popped in my head. But I mean, what am I going to do against someone that blindly makes accusations and then full throttle believes them?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 18:38:05 GMT -5
And I guess you fell into my trap, because you literally just went full throttle and made several assumptions which shows YOUR sort of character.
But hey. I was on a phone, after having worked a double - on a bus - so no my quoting your statement wasn't perfect, or ideal. Because phone. Knowing you, you're ganna go, LOL LIES HES MAKING IT UP HES JUST TROLLING, so when I go back to work tomorrow, I'll post my fucking work schedule just to prove how fucking stupid you sound. And to be extra, since you have been putting wayyyyy too much effort into trying to debunk something that actually happened - I'll even post a photo-blog of my trip from work, to the bus, to home. Since I'm just a fucking liar, right? Say something relevant, or nothing at all. You suck way too much staff cock.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 18:43:46 GMT -5
I havent been reading this too well. I do think it's a bit of a dick move to use one's inability (or unwillingness) to properly use forum tools/bb code/etc as a sign of being wrong regarding whatever point.
Although, he is not entirely incorrect in terms of "What RPI out there is good?" All this conversation, bashing Arm. Someone mentions a different mud and the very first reaction to it is, "Don't. It's full of OOC-cliques and staff favoritism. 20 + people quit over it over the years"
Seems to me that ALL MUDs which are immersive enough, suffer from this. The only ones that are not, are the ones which you can basically single-player your way through it's entirety.
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Post by sergeantraul on Jul 11, 2018 6:21:50 GMT -5
battlebeard your inability to figure out how to write your response outside of the quote box makes me very skeptical you ever had the coded competency required to figure out what you supposedly figured out
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Post by faroukel on Jul 11, 2018 10:09:02 GMT -5
Players be crazy. A glimpse into the mind of your toxic mud player; Oh, someone has a helmet that's better than mine (oooh, fancy text). I bet they a twink sparrer skill tweaker!!!! (sound familiar?) Oh, let me message and blame someone for ... ugh, other players quitting! Shit, that didn't do anything. Let me notify this guy 10 times...wtf, he didn't reply! I'll just keep notifying him then! (cause that's not insane, I'd be embarrassed to continue after second or third attempt and question mental capacity) Fuck this, I'm just going to kill this guy and take his helm! Let me brag about it ooc to my chums, including the guys second in command. OH wait, this backfired! Dude got guy to come back online, and now, they're killing me! No fair, this was an 'official orc challenge!' You guys are fuckin twinks, fucking ooc'ers! Ignoring my rp, my challenge! Wait, dude isn't going to kill me? He's offering the olive branch to continue on playing? FUCK THAT! You better kill me you filthy rp'er!
...still waiting on that dwarf, bro.
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