Yes, but what HAPPENED? Did any single person on this forum get banned as a result of it?
That's all I'm curious about. Not pro staff or pro-shadowboard ... just curious what the outcome was. Or do we even know?
It's possible someone gets banned and says, "screw them" and just goes on with life and we never find out.
As a result of the pixel tracking? Probably, from the first time around. dunebum did you ever receive any PMs from shik?
Yes it was when I checked my PM's due to the forum post noting you had found weirdness. Shik had "welcomed me to the shadowboard" via a PM and the signature had a broken [/img]WARNINGTRACKINGLINK link in it.
I disgust Noted Liar Nergal. I am one of the disgustables.
A while back during the Nyr era, people started complaining about the high frequency of bans. So many players got banned by Nyr after running afoul of him that there was a kind of mini-revolt. Staff decided to tone down the bannings, but instead they shifted to a new practice of essentially running players off the game by targeting them with all kinds of scrutiny and disproportional punishments. Perceived pariahs would find that NPCs got animated to try and kill them, denial of any requests more significant than joining a clan forum, karma dock/lock, removal of guild options, etc. That way, Nyr could get rid of players he didn't like without technically banning them.
IMO, this is why we see 20 players instead of 70, now.
mehtastic: Sure, but you don't actually know for sure if it's the player, or someone else inspired by the player's style. Staff know for sure, 100% of the time, who is playing whom. That's the difference.
Sept 5, 2019 10:53:34 GMT -5
delerak: the player base for arm has alwayus been small overall. it is almost guarnateed if you sort the memberlist for the gdb by posts the top 10-20 posters have been or currently are on staff with alternate names.
Sept 5, 2019 11:37:11 GMT -5
delerak: it's nice to be 'anonymous' in game though. players will absolutely go after you if they know you got them before in years gone byt
Sept 5, 2019 11:37:55 GMT -5
qwerty: While proooobably true
Sept 5, 2019 12:40:31 GMT -5
qwerty: I try not to think this way. A bit of a self delusion potentially, but it makes it for a much better gameplay
Sept 5, 2019 12:40:47 GMT -5
qwerty: If you just stop thinking about all the ooc bullshit and just fucking play the game
Sept 5, 2019 12:41:01 GMT -5
qwerty: and if someone is unexplainably hostile to you for no good reason. Chalk it off to being an asshole and slit their throat
Sept 5, 2019 12:41:42 GMT -5
qwerty: All in all, in my observation. OOC relativity comes about cliques, then hostility. As in, players might not care if you offed their previous character. But they might like and include another PC whom they talk to more often ooc.
Sept 5, 2019 12:42:44 GMT -5
qwerty: But again. You cant control it. Cant prove it. The nagging suspicion will ruin your gameplay. I just try not to worry about it and react to the gameworld events as if there is no ooc influence. Doing anything else makes for a really shitty experience
Sept 5, 2019 13:01:26 GMT -5
qwerty: You cant stop people from talking ooc. And if people talk ooc, it's bound to happen that they cooperate ooc. Or ... or not. But you wont know and therefore, you'll suspect. And this suspicion will kill the game for you.
Sept 5, 2019 17:46:21 GMT -5
qwerty: 4/5 times someone rages against staff, staff had nothing to do with it. It's just number one suspicion people go to.
Sept 5, 2019 17:47:19 GMT -5
mehtastic: Ignorance is bliss.
Sept 5, 2019 17:50:44 GMT -5
delerak: I recently accused staff of some nonsense. They showed me the log and I felt embarrassed. It's hard to shake the paranoia of days gone by when you were slayed by staff for going afk and using a script to forage wood.
Sept 5, 2019 18:32:02 GMT -5
jkarr: look east. near: agafari forest. far: agafari forest. very far: the ghost of halaster is here grinning evilly
Sept 5, 2019 22:30:43 GMT -5