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Post by grumble on Dec 12, 2016 2:33:21 GMT -5
Seeing as how I'm banned from Armageddon, I have decided to play a different game. Since they don't seem to be a bunch of ego-slave-tools, I would like it if any of you interested in playing with me or others again check it out, and try to follow the no IC info rule, they do seem serious about it. Cyberpunk semi-RPI with MOO code, what's not to like?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 12:03:19 GMT -5
How does it compare to InfernoMOO as far as gameplay, survival, etc. is concerned?
I gave Sindome a shot years ago but couldn't get past the learning curve lol.
Maybe InfernoMOO has prepared me now though.
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Post by grumble on Dec 12, 2016 12:32:43 GMT -5
Well, I mean, it's moo code so a lot of syntax carries over, both being built on Lambdamoo code. There's an idea, as a practical joke, somebody make an Arm clone on moo code. That'll learn 'em. "You can't do that!!".
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Post by misterhercules on Nov 2, 2017 8:56:51 GMT -5
Sindome used to be good but it's gone through that "all the veterans quit or were banned" because of tyrant administrative dickheads, which is mainly just one pissy moron who is drunk on power and constantly fueling these mass explosions of displaced player hate rage, but it's ignored and whitewashed because you know, players are logging in so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ let's just pretend that's not happening and instead talk about how we need to keep it all IC because you all just are lame and useless crybabies who don't deserve to play. This doesn't sound familiar at all, huh. Also anyone thinking about playing Sindome should check out this reddit. www.reddit.com/r/MUD/comments/6zfdvc/sindome_cerberus/the hate-spolsion that went down here was one of the many he's caused since they put him on staff. TLDR; Cerberus is the Nyr of Sindome. I have to go search out the screaming he's done and share that, because it's tooooooo funny watching him try to sound "reasonable" and "polite" when he's gone on OOC with the "YOUR ALL SHIT GARBAGE" outbursts before XD. They keep him anyway. He'll probably wreck your play if you do anything cooler than he does. He got fired or ragequit once before. They brought him back. But in case people feel masochistic, and sometimes people do, creating a fat data dump here to answer all teh simple questions people ask that they are supposed to figure out by fumbling blindly around in MOO syntax or some bullshit like that. Fuck that. If I can't figure out how to use your stupid game syntax you are doing something wrong, don't blame it on the players fucking shitchrist. I have a full stats / skills curve table here and some weapon intel, some of the few crafting recipes and also lots of juicy tidbits from logs and pastebins. So many goddamn pastebins - if they think ppl don't share OOC intel OOCly they are deluding themselves - there is staff/admin level shit I have found on pastebins over the last five years. The only difference is that right now I'm just going to post it straight up. Freedom of speech bitches. I'll get all that together so it's in some orderly format and post it later on. Hold onto your panties kids.
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Post by misterhercules on Nov 2, 2017 15:11:32 GMT -5
Alright, let the data dumping begin. This should be pretty accurate for the bulk of it. Starting with explosives since it's the only real "craft" and it's easy to jot down. Not counting modding Quickterms and drugs, etc, covering that later. MAKING BOMBZ
- Relies heavily on INT (Intelligence)
- If you need an INT boost you can take mRc (400c - Nice Dream Vending Machines, all over the place)
- LUCK can boost how well you do when making, diffusing or rigging bombs. So toggle LUCK to ON before making any attempts.
- The better you are at making bombs the more damage they will deal also.
- There was a recent refactor of fire damage I think they nerfed it so .. don't expect that much of a bang in most cases.
- All you need to craft are the items, either in your inventory or on the floor in the room you're in.
Adept Skill level or thereabouts you shouldn't fail very much, except with Time Bombs. Ace is a safer bet. Above Ace you'll be able to craft Molotovs and Pipe bombs without any trouble and you'll keep getting better with Time Bombs. WARNING: If you attempt to craft and FAIL there is a chance you will destroy the consumable item and get nothing. If you fail the check a few times you should probably stop, get smarter or train more in the skill unless you've got spare parts to burn. PIPE BOMB - Easiest Difficulty You can't rig traps with pipe bombs. Just light and throw. ITEM ONE : Carbon Steel Pipe (consumed) 700c - Hugo's hardware, Ashlin Mall, Red Sector ITEM TWO : 10mm magazine or 10mm extended magazine (not consumed) Crafting doesn't consume ammo from the magazine You may be able to use an empty magazine
MOLOTOV - Moderate DifficultyYou can't rig traps with pipe bombs. Just light and throw. ITEM ONE : Bottle of alcohol (consumed) Best option: Bolshevik Blue Vodka (4000c - 100 Rads Bar, West Ashlin Street, Red Sector) You can also use Starlight Shiraz and Space Rum. All of these are expensive consumables if you buy them "new" it's better to check markets or sometimes you can find PC's selling them. ITEM TWO : Ethicol Source (Not Consumed) Best option: Fuel Can (3750c - Hugos hardware, Ashlin Mall, Red Sector) You can also use Fuel Drums if you have one for some reason. pretty sure you can use it without fuel inside it lol If not, you only need the minimum amount of fuel in the container. Crafting doesn't consume fuel from the container.
TIME BOMB - Hardest Difficulty You -can- rig entryway traps with time bombs. For some reason, you can't set more than a single time bomb in one room. (This could be a bug.) ITEM ONE : Watch (Consumed) Best option: Digital Watch(300c - Olga's, Fuller Street, Red Sector) These work too but are way way more expensiveNito-Kodak Chronos silver rolex gold rolex titanium rolex ITEM TWO : Ethicol Source (Not Consumed) (Same as Molotov, see above) NOTE: If you hit a good roll it's possible to spit out a pair of time bombs when crafting while consuming only one watch.
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Post by bonghitz on Nov 3, 2017 9:17:48 GMT -5
Since they don't seem to be a bunch of ego-slave-tools, well I gave Sindome a shot years ago but couldn't get past the learning curve lol. there's definitely a curve in terms of how to level up in sindome, but the learning curve is mostly figuring out what about the game is broken and how to get around it on a daily basis. take, walking for example. it is possible to walk through the game, but sometimes you might queue a move "too" quickly (not the players' fault), or sometimes it just decides to screw out on you for no apparent reason, in which case any and all movement commands you send are dropped by server, forcing you to type "stop walking" in order to be able to walk again. guess how many times i died to this wonderful feature trying to get away from murdermen, having queued up what i thought was enough movements but oh no!!! i got stuck because of this ~hilarious~ bug that has been around for about a literal decade now. you absolutely have to have "stop walking" on a macro if you want to play because you will literally be stopped every few minutes walking through the game by this bug. also don't tell them you use macros!!!! it's against their rules (even though they cant do anything about it loller)
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Post by ripvanwrinkle on Nov 3, 2017 18:51:48 GMT -5
Where the info at.
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Post by lurker on Nov 29, 2017 10:09:29 GMT -5
you should also know, since you posted bombs. The game codedly only allows X number of explosives in the game. Meaning, it is possible for one person to literally hoard all the grenades in the game, and this will stop anyone else from making IED's.
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Post by tedium on Feb 19, 2018 17:09:11 GMT -5
you should also know, since you posted bombs. The game codedly only allows X number of explosives in the game. Meaning, it is possible for one person to literally hoard all the grenades in the game, and this will stop anyone else from making IED's. Haha really? So, Sindome is a cyberpunk game where A) staff won't tell you basic syntax because of ZE RULEZ. B) you have go to through DMV-esque OOC waits so that you can go through IC bureaucracy so you can get a job that isn't spamming 'work' in 1:1 time. C) They justify all of this by saying "realism". D) There is an arbitrary, hardcoded limit on the number of molotov cocktails you can make, so the elites can effectively gun control the entire game by investing in a locker and one good party. Sindome feels like cyberpunk made by someone who hates cyberpunk.
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Post by grumble on Mar 11, 2018 21:18:21 GMT -5
The funny thing is I got banned like, 3 weeks after posting a recommendation and said nothing. Not like I had to, I figured maybe I was being paranoid but my experiences are not unique. Shame, it could be so much better.
EDIT: I mean, I thought it was just me, as it often, can seem to be. After the shitstorm involving staff on other games, I decided to just keep my mouth shut and let someone else say it.
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Post by ar on Mar 16, 2018 3:27:16 GMT -5
Come play Cybersphere instead [disclaimer: am staff, not a dick].
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Post by latrineswimmer on Mar 21, 2018 22:03:54 GMT -5
Cybersphere Staff response to attempted 2nd PC generation. Ptolemais (3/21/2018 21:31:14 EDT) comments: As is clearly stated in the help file for advanced character generation, "a clear and concise summation at the end of the character history in regards to the character's concept, basic archtype or role, personality traits/flaws, friends/enemies, outstanding debts, life-shaping events must be included." I can't imagine how we can make this more clear, and it has very little if anything to do with New Carthage itself. Concerning your biographical history, for a tier3 character it is severely lacking; for example your character "learned how to steal cars"--okay, how? Who taught him? As is also explained in the tier3 help file, character histories must be detailed and up to the advanced character generation standards. Ea was kind enough to very gently suggest that you might want to start in standard until you become more adjusted to the game environment. I am not so gentle: if this is going to be your attitude whenever an admin tries to unoffensively offer you some advice, then maybe this isn't the right game for you. Jesus I wrote a damn essay to make a largely disabled PC, took hours to write that PC. The options for Standard PCs are way less fun and cool than Advanced, yet you need about twenty times more text than Armageddon PC generation to experience them. The staffer Rain seems really cool. Not sure whether to bother making another PC here. In terms of code vehicles and cybernetics are more advanced than Sindome, the media and everything out of combat less advanced than Sindome. but helpfiles and the like are more basic, and the game seems more hack and slash in general, less rp, and it seems that old players are more permanent "haves" than in Arm. It clearly comes from the same codebase as Sindome and Hellmoo, I would reccomend Hellmoo for a hack and slash game over this and Armageddon for RP. Sindome looks better in terms of the mud interface. I hear bad things things about their staff from you guys though. I played it for a good whack of time, it just felt like a second job to me so I stopped playing. Dunno. I am dissapointed by the whole "if that's your attitude" thing, since I wasn't giving any attitude, even if my text was read that way by hostile staff. I probably would have kept playing, and rewrote a more basic concept. I don't really care about not being approved but I just hate pissy staff attitudes in a niche medium. I would have just made a more generic PC and not a mutant (mutants are at a strong disadvantage due to inability to get cybernetics). Also it is weird that Advanced PCs have built in staff favoritism in the rules. All I wanted to play was a bio-engineered failure. Take a look at the logs on the forum for the RP quality, any of you could do better. Here is the sort of overly short background that will not cut the mustard, not included is mdesc, I included the @nudities though. The Summary section is where you talk about your place in the game-world and whether you deserve to make Advanced PC. There is also a roleplaying section where you have to solo RP one of four scenarios and submit it. pastebin.com/AJmM9KdS
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Post by ar on Mar 22, 2018 5:31:28 GMT -5
The staffer Rain seems really cool. If you reapply I'll approve it just for saying that. Although: [page] Rain [to latrineswimmer] No problem. Just out of curiosity, did you come here from the shadow board? Tue Mar 20 08:39:42 2018 EDT *** OOC page from latrineswimmer located at Maggs Creations *** [No I think a lot of those guys are autists and always act they are victims, have chatted to a lot over the years but I avoid both gdb and shadowboard. Came from TMC.] You dirty liar! Yeah, the standards are different to what's expected in Arm; they were expecting something more biographical that justifies the various skills, advantages, etc that your character is starting the game with. I can't really comment on what's different between CS and Sindome as I've avoided playing Sindome to get around the possiblity of any "u stole our shit" shit. If you do make another character I'd suggest trying a matrix related one, there's a lot behind the scenes there that you wouldn't have encountered. The media system broke fucking years ago and nobody's ever quite fixed it properly, it's on my list of fifty billion items to fix - that's actually what I was doing when I spoke to you the other day (although I ended up rewriting the whole area you started in instead, and adding support for `say (sexily) sexy talk`. Yes, total fucking hypocrite that I am, I talk about not stealing anything from Sindome and then steal Arm's say modifiers). And yeah, there's more hack and slash than I'd like in it as well, though it's not grinding mobs for gear (or skills, for that matter). RP doesn't tend to get logged so much as red text, but does happen in player apartments with the lights off. As far as I know, Sindome was based off an old CS core from way back when and HellMOO was created by the guys who originally made CS. Most of the similarity will come from MOO, though, there's some engine constraints that'll tie in to all of them to do with how verbs are handled and shit (even though MOO is clearly the best and I'd totally use it to write a fantasy Arm-like). I'm disappointed by the whole "if that's your attitude" thing, too, by the way, though I can see why she thought your response came off as hostile, as your character summary essentially started out with "i am best rper!". She was just keeping to the rule, though (direct from the help file): Tier III character applications will be denied if they do not conform to the following guidelines:
*Character histories must be detailed. All of the suggested areas of detail for the current chargen system are mandatory for Tier III. A clear and concise summation at the end of the character history in regards to the character's concept, basic archtype or role, personality traits/flaws, friends/enemies, outstanding debts, life-shaping events must be included. The whole "advanced characters get staff favouritism" thing isn't quite what's intended with the system, but I agree that it does come off as a bit odd. The reason we want a summary, though, is so admin have some easy-to-see hooks to go off if they want to fuck with your character roll up an NPC from your past or that directly ties in with your history, to fuck with your character. To be honest I'm considering trashing that whole character generation system in favour of something more streamlined. With a summary. Because our skill system is stupid, it's too easy for new players to gimp their stats and end up getting their heart crit out of their chest by the first mob they try to kill: (Josiah) [latrineswimmer] approaches Josiah with patient, disciplined fists motions and says, "Come get some."
(Josiah) In a burst of blinding speed, Josiah leaps forward, advancing in a patinando lunge and stabs the tip of his rapier into [latrineswimmer]'s chest. Josiah's momentum forces the blade deep into [latrineswimmer] as blood fountains from the grievous wound.
(Josiah) [latrineswimmer]'s chest erupts in blood and shredded bits of heart as it absorbs the brutal wound.
(Josiah) [latrineswimmer] slumps down in a crumpled mass of flesh -- dead!
[killnet] Blood Loss p-killed [latrineswimmer] at Concrete Shoreline [2, 1 (New Carthage)] Last Clone Update <Tue Mar 20 2018 08:43:53>
Love, Rain Head Cunt, CS P.S If anyone does make a character, when you're adding skills max the fuckers out. Add "shock" and "dodge" if it's a combat character. Like I said, our skill system is fucking stupid.
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Post by ar on Mar 22, 2018 5:32:34 GMT -5
Oh wait, shit, I'm staff on a game, I should have just banned you and crawled off to masturbate over my virtual power. Shit. Sorry.
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Post by latrineswimmer on Mar 22, 2018 6:28:59 GMT -5
Actually I haven't been on here for ages, chatting with you was what gave me the idea there was stuff about your game here NOW I AM THE AUTIST WITH VICTIM MENTALITY. Also I was too broke to buy a new clone or equipment after dying while trying to hotwire a car, I do respect it is possible to hotwire cars day 1. You are the coolest dude, Rain. I bet when you masturbate over virtual power it is like a cheese fondue fountain. Also I killed 2 bums before I died, and a mangy dog, in the old city. They had no hobo loot. Personally I love combat systems where instant death is possible. Thanks for replying. That dude saying maybe I should find another game was dickish when I was genuinely asking what I was missing to complete my advanced PC gen. I guess I will give it another go (unless banned and covered in virtual liquids). Thanks.
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