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Post by punished ppurg on Feb 10, 2016 9:35:15 GMT -5
You guys, multiple times, screwed your clients, over an OOC gender identity perception, and you don't see anything wrong with that. Fuck you. lol Desert man has something to answer for now. Bringing his misogynistic and homophobic biases into Armageddon. Aren't those two things explicitly against the rules? Oh well, he's risen above such petty disputes, due to how mature he is.
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Post by astrangeshadow on Feb 10, 2016 10:13:43 GMT -5
lol he shit on the plots, ruined grumble's mudsex chances, killed baker, and then got bored! lolno. Man, don't know where you get your information from but he didn't kill baker. a templar did. also PPP get the fuck over yourself.
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Post by punished ppurg on Feb 10, 2016 10:22:44 GMT -5
Everybody knows Nyrgon killed Baker.
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Post by topkekm8s on Feb 10, 2016 10:52:56 GMT -5
Lmao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 11:49:59 GMT -5
Oh, no, let's pick on the one guy wearing the skirt, we can blame it on the fact that he's an elf, and a whore, we'd blame it on male whore, but that'd be sexist. Oh, and he stutters, the known doesn't suffer those who can't speak without suffering. Fuck you AND Kmart. What the fuck are you talking about, dude?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 12:58:35 GMT -5
Is this about that PC of yours that I killed, and you went on the GDB and vagued about it, and I had an entire page in the RAT with dance-off gifs? Cause that was kinda fun for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 13:04:31 GMT -5
Tbh I think because of qpriya imms realized how retarded th3 system was and decided to change northern templars entirely. they were fucked but i think they were sexist, too. sanvean is a militant feminist... once she yelled at fakir and i for trying to get a BDSM party, thinking its intent was to degrade women. hell fakir had a female PC at the time so that was far from the case. but, she had no problems at all with women being the only ones who could mindbend. they probably justified it for as long as they did by saying it was a leadership role that empowered only women... I am not some "man feminist"... maninist... but Qoriya aside, there never should have been such an important role that was male only or female only. nyr was chomping at the bits to change tuluki docs as far back as 2008, so i'm sure he had a huge boner to change shit as much as he could. eliminating female lirathans was good but there's no telling how much he fucked up other shit, like those ridiculious legion ranks, in the process.
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Post by grumble on Feb 11, 2016 2:10:55 GMT -5
Is this about that PC of yours that I killed, and you went on the GDB and vagued about it, and I had an entire page in the RAT with dance-off gifs? Cause that was kinda fun for me. No, that was a different PC, also, that was totally contrived and forced, but less dumb compared to what I'm talking about.
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Post by jcarter on Feb 11, 2016 8:24:12 GMT -5
Tbh I think because of qpriya imms realized how retarded th3 system was and decided to change northern templars entirely. they were fucked but i think they were sexist, too. sanvean is a militant feminist... once she yelled at fakir and i for trying to get a BDSM party, thinking its intent was to degrade women. hell fakir had a female PC at the time so that was far from the case. but, she had no problems at all with women being the only ones who could mindbend. they probably justified it for as long as they did by saying it was a leadership role that empowered only women... I am not some "man feminist"... maninist... but Qoriya aside, there never should have been such an important role that was male only or female only. nyr was chomping at the bits to change tuluki docs as far back as 2008, so i'm sure he had a huge boner to change shit as much as he could. eliminating female lirathans was good but there's no telling how much he fucked up other shit, like those ridiculious legion ranks, in the process. I don't have an issue with it from a world or setting point of view. Its just stupid to put it in a game and I think qoroya pretty clearly showed why. If sanvean really did design the orders tho its ironic that she fell back on the trope of men being fighters while women weren't and needed protection.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 8:50:54 GMT -5
Laeris worked a lot on that stuff but Sanvean was definitely in her pre Arm reborn going hard as a Highlord during that time.
Laeris was prior service army or national guard who was uhh genderless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 8:53:08 GMT -5
Well, it's biology. I've never understood why people get so fucking bent out of shape about that. In historical time periods corresponding to Zalanthas' setting, that was the way of human society. In most species of animal, one gender is genetically pre-disposed to be stronger, faster and tougher in order to carry out that task. In some species, this is the male; in others, the female. In primates, it's pretty clearly the male.
Gender equality is applicable in modern society because the above is no longer relevant, and because it's nicer for most people if gender doesn't have to determine how you live your life. Women should get paid the same, have the same opportunities, etc. However, some hysterical people take it from there to "you mustn't acknowledge a difference between the sexes." That's literally unnatural for Earth humans, and an unrealistic expectation to impose on anybody.
It also happens to be the way Armageddon is intended, which is probably no more than a bid to eliminate tiresome discussions about gender roles in Zalanthas. That's fair enough on its own, regardless of what other views might have been held by whomever made that decision. That does make it odd for somebody to have wanted to create gender roles in so prominent a place as Tuluk's government.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 8:53:18 GMT -5
i was really young back then and only know of what was being written on the GDB. but, i was playing Cidsarl Kadius during a lot of the reconstruction.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 8:55:22 GMT -5
Laeris was one of the main ones in charge of that and Sanvean and Halaster were Highlords. I think. that's been a long time ago admittedly,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 8:58:20 GMT -5
Sanvean did all the Bardic Circles stuff. Mekeda I think worked on tuluk some too... maybe just the Tooth. she's a good clan writer/builder.
the bardic area built by sanvean in tuluk was kinda like Tyn Dashra. had the same style, but there was less in the latter. more toned down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 9:33:15 GMT -5
The Jihaen and Lirathuan orders were implemented in 2002, and Laeris was still in charge of the northern templarate by 2004. I don't think Sanvean was the one who came up with the gender thing, at least not single-handedly. She'll still have been okay with it, though. Enough for it to happen.
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