blargle
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Post by blargle on Mar 1, 2013 22:24:57 GMT -5
Anyone have info on the warrior only branched weapon types? Where to find them, are they one handed or two handed, anything cool or unique about them, what sort of damage they deal, pros/cons of each type etc?
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Mar 3, 2015 11:50:41 GMT -5
Revamp
Razors lacerate. Knives stab. Pikes poke. Polearms jab. Tridents... poke too?
Razors and knives branch from slashing. Polearms branch from chopping. Pikes branch from bludgeoning. Tridents branch from piercing.
Razors destroy armor (literally break it). Knives are supposedly very fast (sanic speed). Polearms have an insane parry/defense boost. Pikes ignore armor (high crits) and have a possible boost against mounted? Tridents give a disarm boost and (very high dmg)?
Someone fill in the gaps. If you're unsure, note that . If you're positive, note that.
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Post by topkekm8s on Mar 3, 2015 11:53:50 GMT -5
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Post by sirra on Mar 3, 2015 12:16:30 GMT -5
Revamp Razors lacerate. Pikes poke. Polearms jab. Tridents... poke too? Razors and knives (?) branch from slashing. Polearms branch from chopping. Pikes branch from bludgeoning. Tridents branch from piercing. Razors destroy armor (literally break it). Knives... not sure if they exist. Polearms have an insane parry/defense boost. Pikes ignore armor (high crits) and have a possible boost against mounted? Tridents give a disarm boost and what else? Someone fill in the gaps. If you're unsure, note that . If you're positive, note that. IIRC, pikes jab and tridents poke. EDIT: I'm evidently mistaken, but I would've sworn on a stack of bibles otherwise. I distinctly recall Abuzer using a training pike and it jabbing me, or doing something non-poking. I never branched pike myself...All my warriors ended up razors or tridents.
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Post by lyse on Mar 3, 2015 12:19:37 GMT -5
Hmm...are we sure only warriors get advanced weapons branched? Just saying.....
errr and knives do exist. They literally stab.
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Post by sirra on Mar 3, 2015 12:27:38 GMT -5
Hmm...are we sure only warriors get advanced weapons branched? Just saying..... errr and knives do exist. They literally stab. Its always possible for someone to be given advanced weapons by staff in a spec-app situation. It has happened in the past. In fact, the highest skills/offense in Arm have been attained by nobles/templars who hardly sparred/hunted at all. But only sent in logs to a sympathetic staffer.
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Mar 3, 2015 12:41:53 GMT -5
Yeah, that thread is a clusterfuck tho and barely even answers the OP. Plus, I want new content.
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Post by topkekm8s on Mar 3, 2015 12:59:49 GMT -5
pretty sure tridents are the highest damage weapons in the game, generally and knives are the fastest attacking weapons in the game, generally
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Post by lyse on Mar 3, 2015 13:18:50 GMT -5
A lot of them are absolutely craftable with surprisingly simple materials. Some are one handed, some are two. Obviously, a razor isn't going to be two handed and obviously a pike isn't going to be one handed, but something like a trident might.
What's cool about them is their capability to absolutely destroy in combat....like holy shit destroy, because almost nothing or nobody have the skill except northern Templars and highly skilled fighters. They're wieldable by someone without the skill, but you wouldn't get the special benefit that someone with the skill would, so you could try them out. Just don't try them on a gith or pvp because they will kill you if your offense isn't high enough.
Imo they're kind of silly and over hyped for a couple of reasons. One of which, is by the time you have one of them..you can beat the shit out of damned near anybody in the game with a regular weapon. Two it encourages people to twink to get that far and when you get it...meh. Three realistically, there would be nothing special about any of those types of weapons to give some kind of all around advantage to the wielder, not only that but with the exception of knives and razors the others could be condensed into polearms as a single skill.
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Post by sirra on Mar 3, 2015 19:54:39 GMT -5
A lot of them are absolutely craftable with surprisingly simple materials. Some are one handed, some are two. Obviously, a razor isn't going to be two handed and obviously a pike isn't going to be one handed, but something like a trident might. What's cool about them is their capability to absolutely destroy in combat....like holy shit destroy, because almost nothing or nobody have the skill except northern Templars and highly skilled fighters. They're wieldable by someone without the skill, but you wouldn't get the special benefit that someone with the skill would, so you could try them out. Just don't try them on a gith or pvp because they will kill you if your offense isn't high enough. Imo they're kind of silly and over hyped for a couple of reasons. One of which, is by the time you have one of them..you can beat the shit out of damned near anybody in the game with a regular weapon. Two it encourages people to twink to get that far and when you get it...meh. Three realistically, there would be nothing special about any of those types of weapons to give some kind of all around advantage to the wielder, not only that but with the exception of knives and razors the others could be condensed into polearms as a single skill. The main benefit from wielding an advanced weapon, is that you'll be using it against people, who with the rare exception of fellow master warriors, won't have that weapon skill unlocked. Which means their def, parrying and a surprising number of other combat factors will take a beating. Most people have no idea how much your proficiency in a weapon skill is calculated into various aspects of a combat round, from disarm to parrying, to whatever. The same principle can be seen when a warrior or ranger takes a sword or axe to an assassin. But since assassins have such low def and often not even parry, people don't really notice. It's only when you're sparring someone who would be roughly your equal with basic weapons, that you see how big a difference it makes. The weapon stats themselves actually aren't as impressive as some people would believe, but it becomes extremely impressive when fighting the have-nots. The best combo, IMO, is a kite shield with a spider-fang trident. Pair it with nomad, and you can no-hands ride, and craft your trident. That's a great warrior, right there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 21:43:24 GMT -5
Hmm...are we sure only warriors get advanced weapons branched? Just saying..... errr and knives do exist. They literally stab. What knife class weapon are you referring to? I really had thought I'd tried them all.
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Post by Procrastination on Mar 3, 2015 22:59:48 GMT -5
Knifing weapons or whatever. They're truly the 'stabbing' weapons that you can only see as 'stabbing' with assassins, I believe. Only thing I wonder about them, since 'stabbing' is a subcategory of piercing when you play an assassin, as in stabbing goes off your piercing, I'm confused how the defense against 'knifing' works. Do warriors gimp themselves against assassins by using knifing? Because their knifing weapon goes against an assassin's piercing weapon skill for defense? Is all of this inaccurate, and knifing weapons are just a completely illusive or nonexistent weapon in game? What I can say for sure, pikes do pokes, as do tridents. I can't say I've ever seen a polearm to know. Razors are laceration. No idea what the echo for a warrior knifing is. Stabbing weapons do stab. And used to, before I heard about warriors having 'knifing' I thought the only real reason for category 'stabbing' is to distinguish which weapons are backstab capable. I still don't know for sure if 'knifing' weapons are stabbing weapons. I can say for sure that assassins use stabbing weapons and it goes off their piercing skill.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 23:03:21 GMT -5
Knifing weapons or whatever. They're truly the 'stabbing' weapons that you can only see as 'stabbing' with assassins, I believe. Only thing I wonder about them, since 'stabbing' is a subcategory of piercing when you play an assassin, as in stabbing goes off your piercing, I'm confused how the defense against 'knifing' works. Do warriors gimp themselves against assassins by using knifing? Because their knifing weapon goes against an assassin's piercing weapon skill for defense? Is all of this inaccurate, and knifing weapons are just a completely illusive or nonexistent weapon in game? What I can say for sure, pikes do pokes, as do tridents. I can't say I've ever seen a polearm to know. Razors are laceration. No idea what the echo for a warrior knifing is. Stabbing weapons do stab. And used to, before I heard about warriors having 'knifing' I thought the only real reason for category 'stabbing' is to distinguish which weapons are backstab capable. I still don't know for sure if 'knifing' weapons are stabbing weapons. I can say for sure that assassins use stabbing weapons and it goes off their piercing skill. Stabbing weapons can be used for backstab. All of the ones I checked didnt read as "knife class". The only object I've seen in game that did was a "sparring knife".
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Post by jkarr on Mar 3, 2015 23:07:35 GMT -5
Stabbing weapons do stab. And used to, before I heard about warriors having 'knifing' I thought the only real reason for category 'stabbing' is to distinguish which weapons are backstab capable. I still don't know for sure if 'knifing' weapons are stabbing weapons. I can say for sure that assassins use stabbing weapons and it goes off their piercing skill. bingo Procrastination yeah i dont know when ppl decided knifing weapons stabbed. stabbers are an automatic subset of piercers which u dont need to branch but which yes backstabby classes can identify before they use it knife weapons slash iirc
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Post by lyse on Mar 4, 2015 7:15:17 GMT -5
Trust me on this knife weapons stab. I found this out by accident recently and you don't have to be an assassin to get a stab echo. This is one of the reasons I think advanced weapons as they are now are silly. The weapon I had didn't even appear to be a knife weapon, which is why I grabbed it. when I hit what I was fighting and I saw the echo, I knew I had a knife weapon, I assessed it and sure enough....knife weapon.
This is why I say you can use them, but if you're up against something nasty you might be in trouble. You're going to miss a lot if you don't have the skill.
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